[–] shitstartercarter 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Yeah, but I'm an idiot for not seeing his awesomeness to people around me all day everyday. Guy was a nut and would have messed up the US big league.
[–] 8119433? 2 points 18 points 20 points (+20|-2) ago (edited ago)
Ridiculous.
You just don't understand how socialism works:
There are certain things we all need; healthcare; roads; bridges; clean energy; water; housing; waste disposal; food; schools; etc...
So, instead of going it alone, we pool our collective resources via taxes.
We then elect politicians to act in our best interest and use our collective resources to procure the things we, as a society, need.
The politicians make sure everyone pays "their fair share." Inevitably, they will need more money.
Then, the politicians keep most of the money for themselves. Some goes to their cronies, and a fraction goes to token public relations giveaways to give "marginalized peoples" social justice.
Nothing gets fixed. The politicians need more money.
The people start to realize that their money is being embezzled by these politicians. The people start to ask questions.
You are trying to tear our great nation apart with dissent. We are fighting for the oppressed. Since you disagree with us, you must hate the oppressed.
Hate speech will not be tolerated. Dissent will not be tolerated. We must protect marginalized peoples.
The economy is slumping. The oppressed need more help. Looks like we are going to need everyone to give a little more.
Rinse, lather, repeat. Keep going until the country's economy collapses.
Claim that it wasn't "real socialism" - that's why it didn't work.
I swear socialism will work this time...
[–] Aldo 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago
Politicians don't keep the money currently though, we live in an Oligarchy, so they give it to the businesses that help get them elected. Get money out of politics so they can't be bought off (and charge those who take bribes from companies with felonies). There is a way to do basic Socialism in this country (look at medicare) without fucking it up, but it requires work and takes away from profits so it ain't going to happen.
[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 5 points -3 points 2 points (+2|-5) ago
My daughter once told me that legislation mandating fuel efficiency would lower overall fuel consumption for society. She argued that it would cancel out the higher up front costs because the long run operating costs would be lower, and everyone would be better off as a result.
I punished her for her economic ignorance by forcing her to watch as I shredded 95% of her wardrobe with a pair of scissors. She cried and pleaded with me to stop, but I told her it would be fine and she could replace them out of her allowance. She complained that her allowance wasn't high enough, so I reminded her that she could fly to the outlet mall on the other side of the state and buy clothing for a third of what it costs at the local mall.
[–] [deleted] 2 points 15 points 17 points (+17|-2) ago (edited ago)
I can definitely see that point of view but I also think education can also be seen as a public good. A more educated populace is correlated with a more prosperous country, public education is one of the most important aspects of any developed nation, its worth thinking about subsidizing all education similar to how we subsidized other private goods, or even public ones like infrastructure that are invaluable to the welfare of the state
[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
“You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants or of 18 different pairs of sneakers when children are hungry in this country"
You having a choice of underarm care is starving children broc.
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[–] markrod420 [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Just because the government is spending the money poorly doesn't mean they should spend it poorly somewhere else.