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[–] Rarestpepeofall 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Been waiting 16 fucking years for the truth about 9/11. I know the truth. Waiting for someone, anyone! from inside to finally ADMIT to the ridiculous lies.

Judy Woods was right. You can't contemplate WHY until you can accept HOW. The amount of disinformation is staggering. You all have your little pet theories and you are all wrong. Except for Bopper. Please for the love of God if you call yourself a free thinker, critical thinker, are intelligent enough to consider something you may have missed, Google "dustification" of the towers. Try not to let 16 years of cognitive dissonance and a mountain load of bullshit color your opinion. Look at it from an out of body experience situation as if you have never heard of 9/11 before and study the evidence with Judy. Please.

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[–] party1981 [S] ago 

Thank you. I will check her out. I think 911 was Mossad.

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[–] bopper 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The controlled demolition theory spawned the 911 truth movement. This was possibly anticipated by the perps. At any rate the movement became so popular that it was infiltrated. That's why it's so non-taboo to talk about it. It is now very safely controlled opposition, to keep people from the truth.

The movement despises Dr. Judy Wood (for good reason). She is taboo, maligned, trashed, and has no Wiki page (and she should). Jessie Ventura likes her, but was shut up by Alex Jones when he brought her up on Jones' show. Even Fetzer has opposed her (Mr. Freethinker ... although I do like him on some things).

If one can ignore the sensational aspects (they can be off-putting) of the below clip, it is a fairly good intro to Dr. Wood. https://vimeo.com/53775705

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[–] Votescam 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Granted the FBI was very obviously involved in the 1993 original attack on WTC which either didn't do what it was supposed to do in leading to an attack on Iraq, or it was a practice run. But why would 9/11 be a threat to the FBI? Clearly, Cheney was orchestrating the day -- protected by the Bush family -- but certainly it was a military operation -- maybe Blackwater(CIA) -- where they got to test some unconventional stuff, I'd suggest.

FBI might be threatened in the cover up?

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[–] party1981 [S] ago 

It's not so much the FBI, but the CIA/JTTF/Clinton/Bush cartel, which seemingly control leadership roles in the FBI and DOJ, like McCabe or Kadzik.

Most of the FBI seems to be good guys, who were battling the DOJ and rest of the government. Here is a mainstream source on that:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/secret-recordings-fueled-fbi-feud-in-clinton-probe-1478135518

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[–] samhara 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

FBI participated and blocked info on it and lied ! It was a collaborative effort and FBI was key to suceess. As they were for the "JFK' event.

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[–] Votescam 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

And compartmentalization --

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[–] samhara ago 

Because the FBI was in on it and part of it.

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[–] Votescam 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Glad to see that everyone agrees with that. And the cover-up, as well.

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[–] UshouldKnow 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Since the location of the vault is in Norway and Norway busted a pedophile ring in November 2016 and retrieved a server with approximately 70,000 names of people located worldwide...Maybe WL has the names...

edit: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/massive-online-pedophile-ring-busted-cops/#.WJk9cDdEzww

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[–] Mommyplayer571 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yes interesting idea. The Vault 7 picture in Norway does look like a server. And I think seeds could be threats of seeding a torrent of new info or the torrents already sent out.

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[–] samhara ago  (edited ago)

The servers of Assange are under rock, way under ground, in an old military site , bunker. Run by a neo - Nazi "Pirates" something. I saw a vid with a tour of the place.. Creepy, fer sure. [ link is on our Forum which was downed 12 - 10 - 16 ]

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[–] crystalclearme 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Seems AnonymousScandinavia may not be willing to wait and my have the info too. https://twitter.com/AnonScan/status/828700269093515265

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[–] party1981 [S] ago 

Yes, those tweets are very intriguing. Does anyone know if this guy had been reliable in the past?

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[–] Mommyplayer571 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I am becoming suspicious of that acct. he subscribes to some anonymous twitter handles that aren't ok. Also one video has what looks like a photoshopped pic of Trump behind Satanic symbol. I think that it is a PsyOp although initially I was hoping for better things from that channel. https://twitter.com/mommyplayer571/status/828990456457490432

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[–] 7960712? 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Not sure if this has been said already, but what if we parlay the "wiki leaks has been compromised" "conspiracy" (I think there's way more evidence for this than to call it that, but nevertheless it hasn't been proven) and say these 9/11 tweets are a coordinated act to smear WL's reputation? Just like the shills that come in here and say wacky shit to discredit the rest of us? What better way to destroy WL than to align them with "9/11 was an inside job" conspiracy theorists ?

Note: I don't have anything against 9/11 theories. It's almost certain our govt knows things we don't. I'm talking about the bigger public opinion and how they tend to regard 9/11 CT people as "nut jobs". It would be easy to sabotage WL by having them release a story that's later proven false. (Which they've never done)

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[–] party1981 [S] ago 

Yes, this is exactly what George Webb suggested - we have no JA proof of life.

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[–] samhara ago 

I felt Wikileals was bullshit from the start since most things that are public knowledge, if you bother to check, and obvious - they never bring up.. Assange never even spoke out against the bogus "War on Terror" money - pit proxy war. Webb does admit they were not for the good of U.S. Yeah, the whole "terror war" was fabricated.

Also Assange was brought up and likely sold from a pedo cult. Anne Hamilton - Byrne "The White Brotherhood"

My take on the latest side - swipe by Webb against so - called "9/11 Conspiracy Theory" [lol] is that whoever they were blackmailing, gave in.

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[–] Searcher88 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Are you saying that Israel would threaten us with war? That's a little hard to believe.

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[–] party1981 [S] 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I honestly don't know enough about Israel/U.S. military confrontations to say. It just seems like, if country X discovers that country Y performed a giant false flag to kill 3000 people and hijack country X's military, then country Y might expect country X to attack it. And then country Y might want to do something to stop/preempt/defend such a retaliation.

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[–] Narcissism 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

9/11 was a Nuclear Event the technology was way beyond anything Israel had at its disposal at the time. 9/11 was US Deep State operation, blaming Saudi, Israel is just a distraction.

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[–] party1981 [S] 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Nano thermite

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[–] party1981 [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It is not a direct threat. The "threat" is a hypothesis, which is trying to explain four different WL, which are otherwise cryptic and bizarre and confusing. Three of them mention "vault7", one of them has a picture of a seed vault in Norway. One of them has a picture of a Nazi gold vault. One of them has a picture of an airplane engine, which has a model number that is basically 9/11/01 in reverse. That tweet, with that model number, says "When is Vault7?" - note the use of the word "when". There is another tweet, which does not have the #vault7 tag, which has a video with the 9/11 WTC crash on the cover, and the text "9/11" and "friendly fire."

Is this smoking gun proof? Of course not. It's a working theory and incomplete circumstantial evidence, like everything else on this forum.

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[–] samhara ago  (edited ago)

The seed vault may be an oblique reference to the Pirate Server area in Norway, which is deep underground below rock and which contains the servers of Wilileaks and of Assange.

Vault7? no idea.. "Bld 7" World Trade Complex is also known under the name of the British Bank "Salomon Bros. Building" in London. The building was completely rented to the U.S. government offices. Silverstein had just taken the lease a few weeks before the event. And Giuliani had built a Security Bunker there, for his office - but against rational logic and many critics, he built it on an upper floor, not in a basement.. Speculation has been: That very bunker was the control station for the operation. Giuliani was said to have been told to get out of there, by his own admission told that the Towers were coming down, before the Towers disintegrated - which implies, at the very least, that he got himself out but did not warn others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7uJnKGTGg WeAreChange Confronts Giuliani on 9/11 Collapse Lies

Look at Giuliani with his Joker Grin!

As far as " a picture of an airplane engine '

It refers to 9/11 - Why ?

Firstly because they planted the plane parts - including the alleged jet engine; which did not match the brand of engine which would've been on the "craft," said to have hit there.

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/why/whypics/73_230806wtc7.jpg

YES, SIR. THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE PLANE ENGINE OF THE KAMIKAZE ATTACK "PLANE!"

From: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/why/why_indeed.html Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Disintegrate?

Here you can see the cleanly cut, alleged landing-wheel supposedly off the same allegedly crashed airliner.

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/why/whypics/72_131043184_332cfad5ae_o.jpg

I want you to look at that image again and notice the FASCIA pole laid neatly along the gutter next to the cleanly-severed landing-wheel

That is their little "calling card" - They love to mock. They love the jokes.

I investigated that fascia - style light pole.

There was no such light pole anywhere near that area of Manhattan. It was not from that street. They want you to assume and believe that the engine flew down and knocked over that light pole.

They may have had some sort of light pole like that one next to the Mayor's Park i.e. "City Hall Park" sometime in the past. And it was saved. But that was years ago and those with that style weren't even there, at the City Hall Park anymore, at the time. City Hall Park, in any case, is way up the hill from there.

What we have is a "When Pigs Fly" narrative. explained in this well - done essay on "Roger Rabbit Moments" Battling the Matrix and Freeing Oneself from the Roger Rabbit Mental World - https://archive.is/lnhA6#selection-651.0-651.74 -

The "plane" and the plane engine, of course, are the best evidence for the massive and "sinister magic trick of 9/11." Historical Development Leading Up To 9/11 As A Hoax http://www.septemberclues.info/historical.shtml

Here you can see papers, saved from some kind of government office or private think - tank? They are working out the plan? http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/

I guess some people want to say it was a hardened missile which hit it? Certainly something hit it , or skimmed the side[?], to make the "Plane-shaped Hole"

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5OGTf_euoH5QtvwG-Q0yMcRBcuHLVGPMeGGzB3ejh-f0i-JBfiA

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSQ6uHnfiQ7GLlxSOEcu12I-AwIPAvP6Dkb2HdVLBCv8o8k7IigrA

https://www.cwporter.com/wtcnorth767hole.jpg

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c06231889e81.jpg

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/left-side-dents1.jpg

But in any case, a commercial jet or any aircraft, will not penetrate and then disappear inside a building [let alone achieve the alleged speed "?" at which it was allegedly flying, that distance above sea level i.e. 700ft/ - which is a rocket speed, not a Boeing passenger jet liner that close to ground.]

You can see above by the image list provided that the alleged plane did not even make a clean-cut of the entry hole, yet somehow magically disappeared into the building. They love their "magic bullets?".

A real airplane or jet will not enter smoothly as though the Tower were made of butter, without slowing down.

Here's an image of the hole made by a far heavier plane back in the day - when it hit the side of the Empire State Bld. http://s794.photobucket.com/user/pondering224/media/weirdness/damages/empirestatebldgcrash.jpg.html

Most of the aircraft fell to the outside as one would expect and stayed outside, which follows some observations by the ancients about physical behavior : ~ "Two things, two materiel objects have their own space ie. don't take up the same place at the same time" - Hume.

The "plane" appeared to enter the building, wait a beat, and then explode.

You have to slow it down and look at it frame by frame, perhaps, to catch that?

Some people with special sensitivity and neurological systems, can see it right off.. Even right off the TV without slowing it down.. They will see something is wrong and tag it as a "dramatization" or "dramatic recreation."

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/thumbnail-600x300.png

The beauty of this is that is right out there in the open. It's right in front of every single person, but just as many can not figure out that murdering Muslims in their homes, bombing them dead for years, is worse then turning them away at the border..,

folks just will not figure it out - in most cases.

Thing is : this was so bold and audacious ; most will not dare to imagine it.

Airplane engine, which is model number 9 / 11 in reverse; is obviously a reference to this Plane Hoax.

If large numbers of people found this out, Mass Media would be cooked.. !

And yes, since Webb made fun of 9/11 "conspiracy theorists" and brushed it off as trivial a few days ago; I feel certain the blackmail worked.

It seems strange that they would have to hide something that is already completely out in the open.. But that is part of the point.

"Hiding in Plain Site" -

Therefore some people who are suckers would surmise such openness proves the perps didn't do it that way.

Also, it enables the Open Source researchers to themselves "spin it out" without any government officials have to break their non-disclosure agreements!

The people who cooked up this hellacious soup must've been very confident in the power of their mind control over the population. And perhaps even over-stepped their bounds with their feat?

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