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[–] samhara ago  (edited ago)

It's impossible for the "Mossad" to do 9/11 without the U.S. government. "The Risk of Winning: What Happens Once the 9/11 Sewer Opens Wide?" - https://nomoregames.net/2006/04/09/the-risk-of-winning-what-happens-once-the-911-sewer-opens-wide/ -

We are fighting a proxy war in the Mid - East not for the ostensible "Israelis" but for the British and German Zionist Bankers.

The "theory" as you call it, of "Israel " in charge of the U.S. is truly a Tail-Wags-the-Dog scenario. Here's from a Cabinet member of the Bush Admin: Morgan Reynolds, link above - from 10 years ago.

"Third, insiders are on the verge of going public. 9/11 was so “over the top,” so murderous, and the next event will be even bigger, that patriotism and conscience are working overtime among insiders to restore a semblance of sanity to our nation. In a hub-and-spoke conspiracy this large, most participants did not know in advance the scope of the planned “terrorist” event. On hindsight, some of the participants are appalled at what they participated in. They are going to spill the beans. Furthermore, virtually everyone across the world inside intelligence services, the military, airline pilots and other technical experts know full well that the U.S. government and selected outsiders did 9/11, not nineteen incompetent Arabs at the behest of a couple of cave dwellers in Afghanistan. Upshot? The dam is going to break, and probably sooner rather than later. There will be casualties on our side before the whole traitorous truth is broken wide open. Michael Zebuhr, a Clemson engineering graduate student and student member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth was murdered under highly suspicious circumstances in Minneapolis on March 18 and was almost certainly a 9/11 casualty. We are playing for the highest stakes imaginable. The sooner the truth breaks out in the open, the fewer innocent lives lost. So will justice be done? I strongly believe it will. Sure, some of the perpetrators will get away with their crimes, but we are going to win. The American commitment to an impersonal legal process is deep and wide, so I am not concerned about any kind of vigilantism or mob “justice.” Yes, we will have a “constitutional crisis” of sorts, but it is going to be orderly and peaceful. We need to think through what we are going to do with that victory. My initial thought is that we must safeguard the 9/11 convictions by removing one privilege from the presidency, namely, the presidential pardon of convicted criminals like those in the Iran-Contra scandal. The fact that presidents traditionally issue pardons on Christmas eve when almost no one is watching says all we need to know about their social value."

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[–] party1981 [S] ago 

There was U.S. government involvement. I never said there wasn't. So, right off the bat, you are not accurately representing my view.

Your long quote doesn't refute anything I have written here, nor does it address the higher-level arguments I have made for Israeli motivations.

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[–] samhara 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

sorry if I missed your point or mis-represented you. I just don't agree that "It was the Israelis" - that's a very one - dimensional viewpoint and one that is bandied around quite a bit. The Israelis are puppets of Bankers.. Israel was put there for a purpose. They are not rulers of the larger scheme. If I'm not clear about your "higher level argument" maybe it's because it doesn't make sense?

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[–] samhara ago  (edited ago)

It doesn't matter what you believe "makes sense" It matter what really happened. I can tell you haven't read the citation. - http://www.septemberclues.info/historical.shtml -