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[–] Frenchgeek ago 

You just assumed that because a theory contain a mathematical virtual point one cannot prove the existence of, the whole thing is wrong.

The point isn't a prerequisite for it to work, it is merely a mathematical consequence : The empirical evidence we get from background radiation and universal expansion ( among many, many others ) are the frigging evidence.

And you would have known it, had you read the start of my previous post.

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[–] 9-11 ago 

back ground radiation

it doesn't prove anything pre-big bang... or are you trying to change the subject now? you seem to have more faith than adherence to the scientific method. I've noticed a trend of people like you who completely disregard the scientific method and have turned science into an ideology/religion complete with faith and a creation story - all based on literally nothing.

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[–] Frenchgeek ago 

What part of "mathematical construct" or "our currents theories on the origin of the Universe don't need a creator to work" didn't you understand?

I never claimed to have proof of anything before the Universe, merely that our mathematical models don't need it to work and therefore making a link between the exitence of the Universe and an eventual creator is an error in logic.