[–] voteforfreedom 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago
NATO IS PLAYED OUT...
rubbish masked as defense
[–] nomenimion 5 points -3 points 2 points (+2|-5) ago
Trump doesn't understand trade. We may pay a heavy price for his ignorance.
[–] nomenimion 4 points -2 points 2 points (+2|-4) ago
He thinks that for a Mexican to gain a job, an American must lose one. Any economist will tell you it doesn't work that way. But that's fine; continue reasoning with your id, just like The Donald.
[–] lostnewbie 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
what are Trump's international trade credentials? I haven't heard anything beyond the fact at he is against our current trade agreements. I agree with that sentiment, I just don't believe that the Donald is actually on the same page as me there. I'd love to see some links to some evidence that he is actually against modern 'free' trade. I have seen a 'Make America Great Again' hat that has the Made in China tag on it so i'm obviously a bit skeptical
[–] novictim 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
If NATO remains obsessed after the Cold War with "Soviet"Russian imperial ambitions then, yes, it is obsolete. If it turns its attention to defending the Free World from Islam and secondarily, Chinese aggression, then it will find a legitimate reason to exist.
I am not saying that NATO should not have a ready defense against a Russian aggression. But NATO has a more pressing concern with a 3million strong Islamic invasion force occupying Europe under its very nose.
[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
NATO hasn't done fuck with China who is aggressively expanding its territorial claims.
[–] MadMonkey 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
So it seems everyone here considers NATO outdated as well, my reserve is that General Mattis stated
The retired Marine Corps general, according to a Politico report, labeled NATO so central to the U.S.’s defensive posture that, if it did not today exist it would need to be built.
I'm inclined to believe Mattis is more aware of geopolitics and more knowledgeable on military capabilities as well.
[–] Inque_Yutani 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That doesn't mean it's current state isn't obsolete.
[–] Wargasm 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
This is an over simplistic understanding of foreign relations.
The United States of America has the strongest armed forces that have ever existed--that is for a reason.
That reason is not because we have more enemies than any country that has ever been, but because the US treats its armed forces like an export; something that can be leveraged in negotiations.
By threatening to withdraw support, President Trump gives the other nations incentive to build up their armed forces and reduce their long-term dependence on the US for military aid.
In the short term, America will save a few dollars. In the long term, America will lose its leverage.
[–] Pwning4Ever 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
Who the fuck cares about Europe, we have Russia on our side.
At the end of the day, Europeans will be our little bitch.
[–] Dalai_Llama 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
So you are arguing for an increased military industrial complex, all around the world?
[–] lostnewbie 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
there might be something to the notion that we have more enemies than anyone else
[–] 7639824? 1 point 34 points 35 points (+35|-1) ago
Trump understands:
Observations and Predictions:
If Europe wants to reside under the protection we provide, yet criticize every foreign policy decision we make, let them pay to garrison their own defense.
Europe has allowed the Moors to overrun their continent, and will cry for our help 15 years from now. Then, they will complain about how we help and demand our soldiers be tried for war crimes. Why bother?
Furthermore, we don't need protection against the Russians. We are the only army that coud engage them successfully in battle. We can form our own peace with Russia, because we are strong. We do not need NATO to do this.
Fuck NATO.
[–] SaneGoatiSwear 3 points 8 points 11 points (+11|-3) ago
spot on.
[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
The United States could fucking occupy the EU easily, and those loser cucks won't put up a fight.
[–] ComedicGoat 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
I dunno, they'd probably break a few lump-wristed numale arms at you and wave angry rainbow signs but ultimately they'd be cucked like bitches.