[–] 7412378? 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago (edited ago)
But Snopes told me that it's false! http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/
I actually read that article carefully. They use weasel words to say that CA hasn't made it legal for illegal immigrants to vote, and therefore they conclude the claim is "False." Still, they admit the following:
Illegal immigrants can now get drivers licenses
Anyone who gets a drivers license is now automatically registered to vote (unless they opt out)
But instead of coming to the obvious conclusion (illegal immigrants will be registered to vote) they say "well technically they're still not eligible to vote, so therefore this is FALSE!" They also completely ignore the fact that if the illegals are willing to break federal law to enter the US illegally, why the fuck would they suddenly be dissuaded from breaking another law by voting illegally?
Snopes is exhibiting selective stupidity once again
[–] UnknownCitizen ago
Or you could be exhibiting selective stupidity by way of cognitive dissonance. Any particular reason you are using the snopes article, which you clearly do not trust as a source, as your only source? Have you stopped to ask how this is possible? Or maybe look at the facts and think critically about why California is doing what its doing? Or did you find enough information to satisfy your "I just read the headline" opinion?
First, the process for obtaining a drivers license requires proof of age. If the origin of birth/citizenship is other than U.S. then the registration will not be done.
Second, the state of California does not register people to vote. That is done at the county level. The state only maintains collective voter rolls for state and national elections.
Third, and to carry on the prior point, the process is only automated in the sense that it moves the paperwork along automatically. The DMV collects the information it needs for its purposes. That information happens to be some of the same needed for registering to vote. It passes that information to the individuals County Clerk. They handle voter verification. The county also maintains birth certificates and the lot which it uses to verify the voter. Even if somehow the DMV fudges up (which is why paying people shit is never a good idea, minimum wage=minimum effort and susceptibility to corruption) the county will find the records lacking and reach out to the individual for further documentation.
There isn't a way, assuming procedural integrity and accurate records, for a mistake to happen.
[–] Pawn 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
We should certiainly give them drivers licenses, cause it cuts down on them causing accidents, bailing, and leaving citizens to pay for the damage they cause. However, on all licenses it should have something that says immigration status. a big i for illegal. c for citizen, pr for permanent resident. It also makes it easier to capture and deport only once, if you finger print and get their address data when giving them their licenses.
[–] Strat0 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
How could illegals vote when Russia hacked the election? Fucking conspiracy theorists /s.