[–] echo-sierra 1 point 10 points 11 points (+11|-1) ago
Whilst you may claim that posts are being neutered, I would suggest it's more to do with being cautious with how we research and present findings. The MSM have already hooked on what I'm calling the "Blue Pill Narrative" where they deride the whole investigation as a nutcase conspiracy, cry out "fake fake fake", and base it all on a mistruth that Clinton and Podesta are masterminds running their operation from a secret lair under CPP.
We all know that's clearly BS, but with the clear disinformation drive by the MSM who are very likely getting their instructions from Brock's propaganda machine - see my findings with how the news publications are now repeating Media Matters story from a few days ago.
So, whilst I can see your concern about the neutering going on, I'm thinking it's more streamlining the investigation to maintain a clear, methodical approach to the research, whereas the crowd-sourcing that occurred on Reddit was riddled with shills and emotional outbursts that got the attention of their top brass who closed the sub down.
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[–] Millennial_Falcon [M] 8 points 1 point 9 points (+9|-8) ago (edited ago)
Regarding the deletion of Saudi-related research, I would guess that probably since it can't really be pursued in an effective
No, nobody has censored Saudi research. That's just completely false. We didn't even censor the Besta=Kline=Saudi narrative. I just alerted everyone that it seemed to be disinformation, as there was no real evidence for it. Now shills are trying to use that to discredit the mods (OMG you can't talk about Saudis here, Mods R CTR!!!1!!).
[–] Fishy-business 3 points 3 points 6 points (+6|-3) ago
Most have moved on elsewhere I believe. I just don't know where .......I guess that's a good thing.
[–] EndThePizza 3 points -1 points 2 points (+2|-3) ago
I've been getting that same feeling. I haven't seen much quality research here recently, and i doubt it's because the most talented researchers stopped researching. I suspect/ hope they found a more private, shill-less platform for serious collaboration.
[–] Millennial_Falcon 7 points -1 points 6 points (+6|-7) ago (edited ago)
I'm sure there is a lot of research going on in more private forums, but the only shills on here are users claiming "pizzagate is fake news" and also posting intentional shitposts and trying to associate pizzagate with being anti-gay, anti-semitic, etc. The shills also attack mods as a way to create distrust in the sub.
[–] TruthTrumps 3 points -1 points 2 points (+2|-3) ago
Maybe we could move over to Jim Robinson's FreeRepublic.com and post on Smoky Backroom or General/Chat forums. Ask permission? Format is good, I think. Gab.ai is uncensored...format not so conducive though.
[–] rootthemout 4 points -3 points 1 point (+1|-4) ago
All my posts have been removed. So I am not trying to share info. anymore
[–] Millennial_Falcon [M] 9 points -2 points 7 points (+7|-9) ago (edited ago)
Deleting per rule 2 and 4. No sources, and meta concern posts don't go here. By the way, the real shill problem we are having is people posting shitposts, not the mods. The mods are protecting the quality of the sub. Shills attack the mods to create distrust and disruption. Their methods are disrupt, deny, and discourage.
[–] bikergang_accountant 3 points -3 points 0 points (+0|-3) ago
Meta very much should be able to be discussed in a thread.
[–] Millennial_Falcon 8 points -2 points 6 points (+6|-8) ago
Allowing these concern posts would be a slippery slope. For one thing, it would give shills an opening to spam concern posts to try to disrupt the sub.
Not to mention: OP didn't even make a argument to support his complaint about the rules. The truth is that the rules haven't change significantly. The only significant change is that sources are required for claims of fact. Also, the impetus for rule change, and asking the community to weigh in on rules, came from kevdude (of protectvoat) himself. The point is to have a small number of clear rules that can be consistently/fairly enforced.