[–] [deleted] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] Phuc_Dat_Bich 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

So post in another /v/ and stop whining

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[–] shakethetree 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I am not sure this sub is the legit place to stay any longer. Today my post was flagged as "Possible Disinformation" without any notice or discussion. I have yet to hear back from one single Mod on the grounds for the mislabel. It is titled as follows: "Pizzagate Represents Only a Single American Franchise Within a Worldwide Child Trafficking Operation Known As Pedogate" and is found at https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1522318. My post of last week titled as follows: [Testimonial] I Was a Sex Slave to Europe's Elite at Age 6, was deleted under questionable violation of the rules. Found here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1502398. Turns out the user named Gopluckyourself who aggressively petitioned to get my post on the testimonial deleted is now a Moderator!

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[–] Millennial_Falcon 7 points -2 points (+5|-7) ago 

I didn't put that flair on your post (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1522318)), but I have removed it for you (see my comment in thread).

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[–] Matt186 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

so sorry to see this happening, time to comment binge to help the cause

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[–] 7405486? 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Many (myself included) were expecting that when this leaked we'd see something more substantial that emails and code words. We expected that within a few days or weeks we'd have victims coming forward (we're going into months at this point).

Until we see people coming forward with (or leaking) video evidence that implicates individuals it'll become more and more difficult to actively support pizzagate.

I'm not contributing to the downvoating, but forgive me if I stop being interested until more substantial evidence is presented.

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[–] SpikyAube ago 

Where would victims go, how would they come forward? I believe there have been a few people who have made posts saying they were victims. But it's not like if they call the New York Times or CNN they'll be listened to, and they are probably not very trusting of the police given how LE has been implicated from the bottom up. Plus it seems Wikileaks has been compromised, or even if it hasn't, the rumours that it has been are everywhere, so if I was a victim I wouldn't want to go there.

I think we should somehow set up a way for victims to speak out and submit evidence if they have any, kind of like a wikileaks thing. No idea how to do it safely and effectively, but it could be like a proper citizens organisation - no links to any government agencies or departments, no links with or sponsorship from big business, no involvement with any corporate/mainstream media - just 100% nice normal people wanting to help each other out. The main problem is ensuring only nice normal people get involved with it. I actually think this is one of the most important things that should have been set up ages ago.

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[–] 7406551? ago  (edited ago)

Creating a group like you're describing could too easily be corrupted. Those involved have connections, but they can't be everywhere.

Most people in law enforcement try to do the right thing and could be trusted as long as you kept working with the same people (avoid getting handed off). Going on liveleaks with a statement of being raped and naming names would also be a decent action.

I'm genuinely surprised none of the honest and moderate papers tried to be safe havens. Without someone in the media to give you a positive voice and make connections (or at least give this an honest listen) the PizzaGate group will fail.

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[–] bikergang_accountant 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

The people claiming that no discussion of possible leads is allowed because everything has to be proven first before it can even be discussed, I will bring this up to you.

You want people to abide the rules of pizzagate while they are guests here, but consider that pizzagate itself is a guest here. If you can form expectations of their posts then we can form expectations of your rules. This is not reddit. We don't have power mods. If you have a problem with other people's free speech you can go somewhere else.

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[–] Phobos_Mothership [M] 8 points -1 points (+7|-8) ago 

The main pizzagate sub is for research and investigation backed by sources so that the community can investigate things that are true leads. Speculation and open-discussion are why we created v/pizzagatewhatever and v/askpizzagate

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[–] Air_Gate 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

We did it Shilldit!

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[–] Nana66 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Truthfully I feel if there was something we could find out over the Internet it's been scrubbed...they don't mess around. Our only hope is screw ups and they don't matter in the big picture.

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