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[–] Le_Squish 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Voat is invite only so no more shill Calvary of one day old accounts to boost bullshit.

You are now seeing realistic amounts of upvoats for the average account age of real users.

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[–] bikergang_accountant 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

The people claiming that no discussion of possible leads is allowed because everything has to be proven first before it can even be discussed, I will bring this up to you.

You want people to abide the rules of pizzagate while they are guests here, but consider that pizzagate itself is a guest here. If you can form expectations of their posts then we can form expectations of your rules. This is not reddit. We don't have power mods. If you have a problem with other people's free speech you can go somewhere else.

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[–] Phobos_Mothership [M] 8 points -1 points (+7|-8) ago 

The main pizzagate sub is for research and investigation backed by sources so that the community can investigate things that are true leads. Speculation and open-discussion are why we created v/pizzagatewhatever and v/askpizzagate

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[–] SpikyAube 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I disagree- I've seen many posts that really undermine the investigation because they have no substance, they have no evidence to back them up at all. Posting a link to a web site that makes a claim is no good unless that website states its sources or links to evidence.

If we don't do it properly and ensure that we are only making claims we can prove or suggestions that have a solid rationale behind them, the whole thing will become a total joke and a mess. I say that as someone who is a professional researcher - I know lots of people working here aren't professionals and haven't been trained so might not know why this way of doing it is so important, but it really really is. I think it's the opposite of what you are suggesting - the fact that mods here are strict about making sure people have evidence to back up their claims and assertions just goes to show that they want the investigation to be seen as legitimate by outside people.

It would be so easy for people to discredit everything and file it away as a lunatic conspiracy theory if they come here and read a ton of posts that are all wild speculation or have no sources or evidence linked. The thing that makes people get that realisation that 'oh my god this is actually true, pizza gate is real, this stuff is really happening' is the EVIDENCE - it's seeing posts that are clearly written by people who are not crazy, people who have done a lot of work and have actually found out real facts, facts they can even see for themselves by following the links to the evidence.

So I think your worries are unfounded. There are other subs where people can post any and every theory- this is the one where the facts go, where we consolidate what it is that we actually know for sure and present it as coherently as possible. I think that makes complete sense.