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[–] anolegion 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago 

Any investigation into these high level sexual crimes against children would almost certainly turn up nothing, and all knowledgeable POs know it. In fact, the perpetrators, enablers, glorifiers etc know it too, with a high degree of certainty. That's why they can be so sardonically blatant.

The powers behind this systematic abuse have ages of experience, much of it infra-generational, handling evidence, covering up crimes, manipulating LE and judiciary, and even, when all else fails, 'disappearing' people who get too close.

Yes, there have been windows - like in the late 80s, and maybe even now - when they made mistakes in their 'programming', and some victims came out. But it has always, without exception, been lone guys or low level networks taking the fall. They have likely learned, and moved far beyond the primitive science of MKUltra and even Monarch. Remember they have unlimited resources.

So, yes, an investigation would probably find underground spaces, tunnels, hallways etc. beneath Buck's and many other places in the area. But much of that underground infrastructure is highly classified. And again, PDs know it.

I am as close to certain as possible that 'white hat', high level law enforcement is aware of the situation, and has been for many years. There's just not much they can do about it. Any perceptive police officer knows that justice is not their business. Order is. And this injustice, if exposed, would threaten the very order they are sworn to protect.

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[–] madmanpg 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Former head of the CIA, William Colby, backs you up on that one:

“What you have to understand, John, is that sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do anything about them, no matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. This is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face.” — Former CIA Director William Colby

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[–] Chance903 ago 

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[–] projection ago 

Well put!

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[–] Forgetmenot ago 

All evil needs to flourish is for good men to do nothing. I believe that evil has infiltrated the highest and lowest levels of society. I think the problem has been that investigators have underestimated who they were investigating. They did not take precautions, and they did not have the resources that these monsters have. But in the end as long as good men do nothing evil will flourish. There is no excuse

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[–] samhara 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Also, here you claim the psychos have gone "way beyond" MKULTRA; yet without any evidence of that. It's just your surmise.

I dispute that. To me, to push that is fear porn.

The techniques of torture are apparently ancient - if you look at woodcuts and torture machines of the past. Once you cut something up and kill it, how much more can you do?

They claimed their AI would pass the Turing Test by 2001; still has not done it. Year after year after year. All they have is "false - hope" dramatizations on the big screen. Fantasy., Fantasy of omnipotence - which they have not achieved.

That's why they like to torture children. It's a fantasy of omnipotence which will never be fulfilled, no matter how many people they kill. They are losers. That is why they have to hide.

Their AI is a dud.. And so much of what they do turns to shit. This is a much larger subject , but just for now note "Oh they have much worse torture than they ever did" or "ULTRA MKULTRA" "they must have by now"

I dispute..

I don't think they can send words into your head either. Nor can they attain immortality by up-loading their brain. Why are they such extreme Fails? Because their assumptions are wrong.

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[–] TruthIsProvidence ago 

"way beyond" MKULTRA; yet without any evidence of that. It's just your surmise.

I dispute that. To me, to push that is fear porn.

  • The operation began in the early 1950s

To dispute they've gone beyond MK Ultra in the last 60+ years during the CPU era seems pretty foolish.

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[–] anolegion 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I actually agree about the Turing Test, hard AI and even more moderate versions, since I consider AI a contradiction in terms. However, where there *have *been impressive advances is in neurosciences and genetics - both fields closely related to the (stated, and some alleged) goals of MKUltra, its (mostly Nazi) predecessors and presumably its (supposed) successors.

I also agree I speculated there, or rather deduced. Because if one believes as I do that the wave of SRA reports in the late 80s and early 90s wasn't a satanic panic or a consequence of outdated/suggestive interrogation methods, then one has to suppose that the people and cults performing these rituals have been doing so ever since.

Yet there hasn't been a similar surge in reports, or even a continuation of reports from psychiatrists of psychotherapists. To me this means they have either stopped performing these rituals/experiments/treatments, or they have tuned them so as not to ever make a survivor *credibly *talk about it ever again.

Again, I do not believe they have perfected mind control or even that such a thing is possible. All I'm saying is that they have many years of experience, in some instances spanning many generations, hiding, covering up, suppressing etc. any and all evidence of their crimes, making ample use of experience and expertise among LE and judiciary within their ranks.

What is ironic and interesting is that a non-initiate, even a scientist or psychologist, would find it very hard to even detect such advanced DID, precisely because it is impossible to distinguish between an integrated personality and a compartmentalized one, since the latter will likely believe herself to be the former, and we have no plausible test to decide such a question, much like Searle's Chinese Room.

Well, I digress, as you did ;). But I posted this before, and it seems relevant in this context. This is from a police investigator into the case of Paul Ingram, who was accused of, and confessed to, SRA back in the early 90s.

Thurston county undersheriff Neil McClanahan, mustached and trim, is the intense young man who headed up the investigation. He has thirty-two three-inch binders, which are filled with testimony, transcripts from interrogations, police reports, and other documentation on the Ingram case.

Asked about satanic crime, he rolls out a chart he has made that covers a good part of his office wall. The chart has hundreds of bubbles with interconnecting lines. Each of the bubbles contains a word or phrase that describes the activities of various satanic cults. They are words like "murder," "threats," "defecation on victims," "child pornography," and "ritual sacrifice."

"This is link analysis," McClanahan says of the chart. "If, for the last 150 years, law enforcement has been playing baseball, this stuff is tri-level chess. And a baseball and a catcher's mitt don't work when you're playing tri-level chess."

McClanahan believes satanic criminals are so sinister and clever that the normal legal procedures and safeguards do not apply. Scientific police work does not apply because the criminals never leave evidence. The normal measures of witness credibility must be abandoned, because most of the victims as well as the criminals have been brainwashed and programmed with misinformation.

Mother Jones magazine, jul-aug 1991

[Edited for emphasis]

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[–] hanknut42 ago 

of course they are too busy trying to win the war on drugs biggest gang of them all

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[–] boomerbust 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

One does wonder (outside of the most-sinister aspects of this one) how many PD investigations were never done, just acknowledged to be done? A sure lazy and (at best) non-waste of taxpayer dollars. Too bad journalism except at citizen-based is not allowed. Too bad there used to be investigative journalists, but a Big Thumb came down on the few left. FOIA may be a victim of further cost-cutting.

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[–] samhara 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Lots of events people believe are above board, if you scratch a tiny bit , you will see all the un - orthodox procedures. People have got so used to it they don't even see it anymore.. I have many examples. Here is just one. These psychos love to hoax and love to mock. I have such a list of examples of things that don't add up - in plain site; that the only explanation is mass hypnosis. Here is 80 pages of holes in the Tate / Manson legend. - https://archive.is/Ceu8f - None of it adds up. It's all "cartoon" "Roger Rabbit" artifacts.

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[–] warrior_of_light 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Lets get some twitter attention on this shall we? Spread the message.

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[–] Phishingteam 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I hope all the Fake investigators go to prison along side these freaks