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[–] RebelSkum ago 

Credited you with the info on the Wiki page. Feel free to add more! http://pizzagate.wiki/index.php?title=Carole_Greenwood

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[–] Investigate1999 ago 

GOOD WORK, OP!! YES, I'M SHOUTING! You deserve great praise.


While I have your attention, would you please use the quote format for quotes that are larger than a partial sentence? To do it, just use a greater-than sign before each paragraph. Sometimes, you should use a greater-than sign and a space.

Working with artists is always an intense experience and there is always two sides to every story. I happen to know Carole's side and it would make those dining on the new food choke and feel nauseous. I will only say that if they knew what really happened, they like me would no longer dine at either establishment.

Carole is the real deal. A real artist with moods and feelings just like all of you. She is a real talent and we were fortunate enough to have her cook for us for a long while in DC.

Continue the rabid dialogue and we will continue to lose our deep talent to the superficial, rabid, uninformed fodder.

Good job City Paper for lowering the bar a little more on DC culture

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[–] SheSaidDestroy [S] ago 

Thank you for the tip, will remember for the future.

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[–] Investigate1999 ago 

Awesome! You're welcome.

By the way, if you've got time, you could go back and edit those quotes. :-)

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[–] oldskeptic 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The year prior to her departure was when the ANC commissioner pointedly asked Alefantis if he obeyed food safety laws, or spat in customer's food.

I had always assumed the commissioner got an earful from a disgruntled Comet employee. Maybe it was Carole herself. That would explain the bitterness directed towards her by Alefantis' supporters, even after her departure.

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[–] ProbablyHoly 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I would love to see the source of that.

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[–] oldskeptic 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Easiest way to get an overview is to use Google search term: Frank Winstead

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[–] SheSaidDestroy [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

You are referring to this, yes?

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/blog/13055188/frank-winstead-gone-wild-the-recordings

According to that piece, the meeting at which the accusations were made took place the Tuesday prior to JUN 19, 2008.

It has been a bit confusing trying to figure out when exactly Carole left CPP. Wikipedia claims, "she left her position as executive chef and co-owner in 2006 citing urgent family matters and other personal interests," according to the current version of the page, perhaps a typo? The articles used as sources are dated 2009 but don't actually specify when Carole left (though they are used as the sources for the claim by wikipedia for the year she left). And one of Carole's own resume profiles claims she was at CPP until May 2010. https://culinaryagents.com/talents/28115-carole-wagner-greenwood

Trying to figure out what really happened just leads to more oddities.

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[–] oldskeptic ago 

At the meeting, Alefantis did not reply to the accusation. The meeting was packed with his supporters. They made quite a ruckus, and there was no further discussion of the topic. I have the suspicion that Alefantis knew that the commissioner had more than just rumors on the subject.

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[–] SpontaneousSpectator 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Carole walked in on Mr. Jimmy Comet ordering a back door special with her 17 year old son Dylan. That's why she left.

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[–] anonentity ago 

Aha seventeen does it for me, its the only hint that Pizza gate has hard evidence., I commend Carole for getting out with her and her son, no wonder all the pedo press fell on her, she would be considered a retard for stopping the grooming of her son.

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[–] SheSaidDestroy [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Again, need some type of source. And anonymous people popping up after the pizzagate investigation making such claims is not a source. They could easily be people hoping to spread disinfo and cause confusion / throw people off leads from within the investigation.

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[–] ProbablyHoly 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

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[–] justanotherpizza ago 

Here is an interview with her from 2008 I haven't seen anyone post before:

http://www.donrockwell.com/index.php?/topic/8180-a-chat-with-carole-greenwood/

but skimming over it, its all food related, with some background to relationships with farms for sourcing ingredients.

I want to support someone elses claim about reading about a scandal that caused her to quit. the gist is that the person writing claimed to have a friend visiting who knew Carole and told them that Carole walked in on James engaging in intercourse with her son. he was working there as extra help and apparently saw James as some kind of mentor-father figure. she did not want to divulge it for professional - career reasons, but apparently did not hesitate to spew vitriol in private why she was leaving. i have tried to find it in my reddit pizzagate archive, but it could have been a screencapped /pol/ thread.

she is on twitter https://twitter.com/carolegreenwood/

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[–] SheSaidDestroy [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I don't want to support any claims from anonymous people on the internet who pipe up with their claims after the pizzagate investigation took off. If someone can provide a claim that was from back then, prior to this whole current situation, then I would be appreciative and willing to take it onto consideration. But not random people who pop up now with such claims, who could very well just be people who are deliberately trying to cause confusion from within. I also saw that forum interview, though I can only conclude that it is someone claiming to be Carole and using the username "childballad" although the likelihood of it being legit is high since it was admin-vouched.

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[–] justanotherpizza ago 

I absolutely agree that the rumor of why she resigned is hearsay at best. we really do not know. I don't think it is knowable unless Carole herself speaks. even then she would have no incentive to be completely honest if it is embarrassing to her family.

to be honest i would rather like to ask where the financing came from to set up bucks and then comet, who was involved.

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[–] anonentity ago 

But I thought it was common knowledge, she came to the restaurant unannounced one night and found her son and A at it. End of story.

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[–] SheSaidDestroy [S] ago 

Feel free to provide any type of source. Otherwise there is no reason whatsoever for me to take you seriously.

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[–] anonentity ago 

It was in a blog, forgot which sorry, the writers mother was a friend of Carol , who had confided in her, and said that she came back to the pizza shop one night unannounced and found them engaged in sexual activity. Her son was young , she immediately got pissed off and ended the partnership. Its on the web somewhere. vvhttp://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/food/blog/13125543/adios-carole-greenwood

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[–] VieBleu 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

good coverage - that quote by Carole Fan only leads me to further speculation about what is in Alefantis' pizza sauce, as hinted to the audience darkly by Magnificent Ape in the full length version of it's notorious "We've All Got Preferences" video.

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[–] Orange_Circle 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

James Alefantis desk... https://i.sli.mg/yj2acS.jpg

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[–] SheSaidDestroy [S] 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Let us please refrain from using information/images that are not directly related to reasons to suspect people of possible nefarious activity. Nothing in that image suggests such activity. At most it has the element of homo-eroticism but this is not a witch hunt for gay people. Please take care not to accidentally make it look like one.

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[–] Orange_Circle 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I think the image is germane to the conversation at hand because of the book Alefantis chose to include in this photo shoot. The images in the book are clearly young.

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[–] VieBleu 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

but this is how he IMAGINES his desk - (best to turn your volume off) :32

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1487801

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