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[–] quantokitty 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yup, another shill who professes "Now I have very recently jumped on board Pizzagate", and then goes on to spew ridiculous disinformation.

I'm really getting sick of this, but enjoy spending your Soros money.

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[–] Skalding [S] 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah I understand you guys' harsh defensiveness and all but breath a little and think on this. I am actively editing it and admitting my assumption could be wrong, and I am not making a full on claim. We just need to keep our minds keen and be careful what we do share.

And the "jumped on board thing": Yeah I've been right-wing as long as I've given a crap, but I've never put stock in the constant conspiracies around democrats. The Right always has the same list of bogeymen over and over every election cycle and it wasn't until Wikileaks proved Soros and Clinton really were corrupt before I started to take it serious.

Everyone is working on memes to spread on social media and that's an excellent idea but we want to be sure we use the best we can.

We also need to prove these kids aren't hers somehow to make this email meet our original argument on it, or find a new context for it.

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[–] trillmore_trout 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No, the email is strange in any context, your "skepticism" is thinly veiled disinformation and you should be ashamed of yourself if you couldn't immediately see how odd the language in the email is. Piece by piece an odd piece of evidence may not hold water but when you add it all up you see how many weird pedoesque instances there are in the emails and social media.

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[–] quantokitty 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

"We"?!!! You're using the word "WE" like you're a actually trying to uncover the truth when you post sh*t that could have been written by a two-year-old?

Come on! Step up to the plate and admit you're a shill. And if you think I'm going to waste my time arguing talking points of why you're a jerk and why this ridiculous disinformation is laughable, you're more out of your mind than I imagine you to be.

Soros is getting desperate. .

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[–] hawkwardd ago 

Agreed. This is exactly what we should be looking more into.

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[–] houseofcards87 ago 

Any Child abuse investigator/expert will tell you that more often than not, Abusers target their own child relatives more than they would other peoples children's, it's far easier to get away with it. The fact they are related to her doesn't rule out anything underhand.

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[–] Manofthehour 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Today I became a believer in #pizzagate https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10037

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[–] AvalonTears ago  (edited ago)

OK, this looks like it could be legit, but here are a few thoughts.

A. In the context of sharing details about an upcoming get together, the notes are almost exclusively details about the children.

B. The context also implies the kids are for entertainment, seems kind of odd but whatever.

C. Listing their ages is kind of weird. I might mention my kids ages if asked, but would never go out of my way but what relevance does their age have to the discussion of adults having a get together?

D. Maybe the kids love the pool and won't care if it's heated, even though the weather will be 60s. Or maybe they will be in the pool as part of the entertainment. And either way, why would you bother going into detail to be telling someone about this?

E. I have kids and I pick them up, I don't transport them. Transport is what you do with something you view as an object, not a person.

F. Abuse most often happens in families, the children's relationship doesn't disprove anything either

With all of that taken into account it sounds very strange to me. You're never going to "prove" what it means or what actually happened though. Its just another drop in the incriminating evidence bucket pool

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[–] SheSaidDestroy ago 

"If those numbers are their ages then they are likely her own grandchildren. I do not believe the children mentioned in this email were in any danger/pedophilic context. It looks like some family and friends get-together."

According to a 2003 National Institute of Justice report, 3 out of 4 adolescents who have been sexually assaulted were victimized by someone they knew well.

Secondary Source: https://victimsofcrime.org/media/reporting-on-child-sexual-abuse/child-sexual-abuse-statistics Primary Source: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/194972.pdf

90 percent of child sexual abuse victims know the perpetrator in some way; 68 percent are abused by family members.

Secondary Source: http://naasca.org/2012-Resources/010812-StaisticsOfChildAbuse.htm Primary Sources: http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/statistics/can.cfm http://www.nationalchildrensalliance.org/NCANationalStatistics http://www.utarchild2010.blogspot.com/2010/04/child-abuse-statistics.html http://www.childhelp.org/pages/statistics http://www.justice.gov/ag/defendingchildhood

It is ignorant to assume/imply that children are not at risk of abuse for the sole reason that they are with a relative. It seems like you don't know very much about the topic on which you are speaking.

As for the sentence in the email, "Bonnie will be Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in that pool for sure."

The only detail mentioned in the sentence prior to, "so you’ll have some further entertainment" is that children will be transported to the event, so the only logical interpretation is that the children are meant to be the "further entertainment", and then it is followed by the assurance that the children would be in the pool.

This does not prove that the children were abused. It is simply suspicious given the relationship with Podesta due to details about Podesta and the details of some of his connections.

"This email does not look like a good lead to me anymore and we should be hesitant to use it as proof of Pizzagate."

This is a bit of a straw man statement. Nobody ought to be saying that any of the emails are "proof" of anything, but rather that the emails serve as strong evidence for reason to be suspicious, which is of course why the emails have lead to many investigating these people further. Everything should be presented together as an accumulation of supporting evidence, and then encourage people to decide for themselves.

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[–] Sentastixc ago 

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[–] Skalding [S] ago  (edited ago)

Alright this is something I hadn't seen yet, thanks.

So there's 3 in the email and a 4th here. Do we know if Evelyn is one of the 4 kids there or the mom of them?

What is Evie's crib? A wordpress blog run by a Lazzatto?