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[–] watch_listed 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes, and then we should clone Sherman and let him lose in San Diego and tell him not to stop until he hits Oregon.

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[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The next Sherman may be from Dixie too. One of history's great ironies.

But if California secedes I could see a scenario where large numbers of Mexicans get driven out of America as the US military advances.

In short the ideal is to keep California and lose the invaders. There would be no issue without them. California used to be the land of Nixon and Reagan.

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[–] Gigan 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

There is no legal or constitutional way for a state to secede from the union. A civil war would be the only option.

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[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

In practice they probably won't even make it on the ballot to vote on it. When Alaska secessionists tried it the federal courts barred it from appearing on the ballot. At that point it'd take something wild - perhaps California's state government ignoring federal court rulings in order to proceed on the issue. I don't think Democrats in California are prepared to do that.

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[–] Cacciaguida 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

California is unfortifiable alone. Try defending the mojave

Where would they get water?

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[–] golgotham 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

"It's California. The place is gorgeous and has a BANKRUPT economy about the size of Russia." Fixed that for you. IMAGINE the economy when their chief source of income - illegal alien subsidies - dried up! They wouldn't last the first month before screaming to be American again.

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[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

I believe California contributes more to the federal treasury than it receives. The illegals, say what you will about them, also help the economy in driving California's agricultural industry. So there are two sides to that dynamic.

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[–] nimrodthegreat 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

The illegals cost CA government $25 billion a year. Tell me again how this helps?

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[–] immatureusername 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

California is a drain on everything. Why is it the rats are the first to leave a sinking ship?