[–] ImReallyHighBut 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
I'll not accept blindly the decrees of a greedy master.
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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Yes, it's one of those things where automation allows a difference of degree to rapidly become a difference of kind.
Obviously if I go out in public I have to be comfortable with the fact that somebody might recognise me. If I go to my local cafe they'll say "Hey, it's didntsayeeeeee" again, I bet he wants a cappuccino" and I'm okay with that.
But automate that procedure so that the supermarket's computers not only recognise my face, they've connected it to my name (via my credit card) and are also monitoring me as I walk around, seeing how long my eyes linger on each product on the shelves, so they can design ads specificially for me -- that's getting creepy.
On another hand, if you'd told me fifteen years ago that Google was not only going to read my email to optimise my search results (and ads, I suppose) but also to pop up little tags on google maps reminding me exactly what hotel I'd be staying in and when -- then I would have found that creepy. But now I just find it just plain useful.
Perhaps we all need to get used to the idea that we're being monitored by big impersonal data-mining algorithms and quit finding it creepy the same way we'd find it creepy if an actual person were paying attention to us. Ultimately I don't know, but this kind of thing is gonna happen and we need to either nip it in the bud or start accepting it.
[–] DanielKurlan 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago (edited ago)
we have to think about the possibility that there will be few places to go where your not 'under surveillance'
This is exactly why the "well its private property they can do what they want" mentality is dangerous.
[–] hyunlee 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
I haven't heard of any movement towards a "no surveillance zone" happening whereas I'm seeing a huge movement with "cameras everywhere."
The thing is, I have surveillance at home for the sake of security. People naturally feel safer with these things.
Am I scared of third party companies watching me or collecting data on me? Of course. Everyone should be at this point.
[–] FreeSpeachRocks 0 points 24 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago
Seems to me there are differences with scale. It's one thing to see someone and identify them because you know them, it's a different thing to have a database with everyone's information and be able to identify everyone -- particularly if this becomes a 'shared' database.
It is fairly reasonable to presume that these images will be linked with other data, e.g. identifiers, buying history, bank or credit data. Further under current US law, the Government has access to all of it at any time and it is illegal for you to be notified.
This gives me pause.
[–] HoneyNutStallmans ago
In Germany, it is generally OK to take pictures of random people. The problem is that you are generally not allowed to publish photos of these people without permission.
[–] FreeSpeachRocks 0 points 12 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago
Understood.
My issue is not the automation of memory, it's the linkage to other databases and sharing with other entities, especially the government.
Further, none of these institutions have demonstrated that they reliably secure data. Identity theft is already rampant. Imagine a future where they can steal your image or substitute another's for yours.
Scary stuff.
[–] ember ago
just another reason i'll be buying everything on amazon
[–] 9-11 ago
thats how they caught that bronx ISIS guy buying a combat knife off of amazon.
[–] ember ago
interesting point, do you mind sourcing that? haven't heard the claim before