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[–] Never_Over ago 

Look up Jesse Lee Peterson

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[–] Holonomic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

...because the other 40% are only 12 yrs old?

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[–] TheKFCNyanCat 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Full Disclosure: I'm black.

It's the African American culture. Despite black celebrities' best efforts, black culture STILL sees intelligence as something to be frowned upon. For some reason, they all want to live the lifestyle of the gang banger or the rapper (the former is entirely awful, and the latter isn't inherently bad but it's an unrealistic dream.) Even for the ones who want to not be on welfare, the fact that their parents are poor coupled with the fact that schools in black neighborhoods are awful and the bad job market means that they often can't get out of poverty.

You'll also notice that most of the really successful blacks that you'll meet outside of the entertainment industry were born and raised in Africa. This is because African black culture does not frown upon intelligence like American black culture does.

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[–] parrygrin 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

First, this isn't just anecdotal.

On the other hand, though, we now know the war on drugs was literally started by Nixon to put black people in jail. Then there's the prison corporations. Don't you think those play a big fucking role?

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[–] primaryappellation [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'd like to argue for something racist, but I've met young intelligent black men and, without fail, they were mercilessly targeted by their peers.

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[–] TheKFCNyanCat ago 

To be honest, that happens with teenagers in general, but intelligent blacks have it the worst.

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[–] Sikozen 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Why are 60% of black families on welfare?

Because we allow everyone to be on welfare forever, and since no new skills are learned to pass on to their children it creates generations of people learning to live with less as the norm. (And to compensate for it - usually by theft or learning to abuse the system.)

There is free money and food every month, so for a few days they have bread and circuses before falling back to shiftless bored behavior. (Crime, abuse to self and others, dangerous sex, etc. This is not a race thing, this is a bored human thing. It's normal in most poverty stricken areas because basics are provided for them by government agencies so there is no reason for people to do anything besides what they want to do. If given the choice, people would not want to work from someone else, take orders from other people, get reprimanded for mistakes, etc.)

This leads to babies having babies - kids too young to take care of themselves suddenly taking care of new life. For girls, there are programs to participate in that require the baby. (Like WIC: Women, Infants, and Children.) Men don't have that, so really aside from the stigma of being a deadbeat dad there's no reason to do something you don't want to do like lose out on Xbox time to watch a crying, smelly baby. And being a deadbeat dad isn't what it used to be anymore than being a neglectful mom is/was. People make excuses for them now to protect them from the social shame that used to drive people to be better and succeed.

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[–] Pawn 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

White man's burden that's why.

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[–] rwbj 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

White privilege is quite absurd, but there is absolutely a degree of class privilege. If your parents were rich, you're exceptionally likely to end up rich. If they were poor you're exceptionally likely to end up poor. Changing from one group to another is socioeconomic elasticity. For a variety of reasons, socioeconomic elasticity in the US is literally the lowest in the world among developed nations.

Things like Rosa Parks seem like an eternity ago from most of our perspectives, but in reality it happened in 1955. That was only 61 years ago. Lynching as a semi-regular occurence didn't end until the 1980s - just 35 years ago. So a lot of blacks are coming from families that were around when there was real and overt racism against them further compounding our already very low rates of socioeconomic elasticity. That's going to lead a shitty socioeconomic situation and it's also going to lead towards a lot of anger which is not exactly conducive to becoming a productive member of society.

And black culture is currently almost certainly having a very negative impact on kids who may otherwise lack role models at home. The failed "war on drugs" accomplished little other than putting a ton of black heads of household into prison for years for victimless crimes. And many big name successful blacks reinforce this culture acting as absolutely terrible black role models in sports and music. For every Michael Jordan there's a thousand 50 Cents.

And our economy in general is starting to deteriorate even for qualified individuals. There's never a good time for a bad start, but there are worse times for it and now is probably one of the absolute worst. When people who even follow the white picket fence brochure are ending up with uncertain futures, kids following hoop dreams are just not going to make it.

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[–] l23r ago 

And Asians are bad drivers but really good at math and Karate!

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[–] daskapitalist 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Welfare, Section 8, etc pay dramatically more to poor single mothers than to equally poor two parent households. This creates a strong financial incentive for black mothers to raise children without a father present. Single parents have far poorer outcomes for children than nuclear families, which results in young black males growing up without a father figure, not learning discipline (which they need for work, education, and staying out of prison). This then perpetuates the cycle.

This same issue is growing for other demographics too - it just started with blacks because when these programs were created, racism was common, and the cycle has perpetuated itself.

This cycle would be broken in 1-2 generations if we either ended welfare/section 8/etc or removed the strong preference for single mothers in those programs.

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