[–] novictim 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
I would like to see a public works project to revitalize America from the bottom up (incomewise). I voted for Bernie for that, Trump hasn't proposed anything of the sort.
Yes, I sent Bernie >$300. "Trump hasn't proposed anything of the sort." Now that is interesting. You think that Trump is like a regular Republican, don't you? So what you and I are arguing over has everything to do with you not paying attention.
You have sold yourself short, put your brain on hold, forgot that you have to listen to the platform and the plans and the policy statements and NOT to the MSM spin and subterfuge.
Your assignment is to put your critical thinking hat on and search for Trump's comments on tariffs/import Taxes and re-industrializing the USA.
You have to do this for yourself because we now have a emotional disagreement. Nothing I say will amount to a hill of beans in changing your mind. Right? Trump is a disgusting clown (which I agree) so YOU cannot see past that.
And let me look into my crystal ball to where this conversation would ultimately go: You will then find out that what I just told you is true but then you will say he is lying or insincere. And then that will be that.
"You cannot reason someone out of a opinion they did not reason their way into".
Either the MSM is allied against YOU for the sake of their owners and the parties they represent...or we live in a alternate reality from each other.
[–] Devildetails 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
Trump wants to fund industries on the decline, it's a losing strategy. We as a nation already throw enough at coal, Nat gas, and oil. Maybe we spread it around, and yes while we get solyndra we also get Tesla. Who's not thinking you myopic sad sack.
[–] novictim ago (edited ago)
Well, at least you are talking about a reasonable concern now. And I appreciate that. But is that true? If you put up a 10% or 15% trade tariff on all imports, does that not gut the advantage of cheap labour for mass manufactured goods such as LEDs and CPUs and Consumer electronics, Solar panels, Wind turbines, etc etc etc?
Devildetails, the devil of these details are what you assemble natioanlist economists to plan out and strategize over, not one thing to point to and say "That won't work".
Can't you grasp the MONUMENTAL shift that even discussing tariffs represents in today's US insider game? The Global elite have TRILLIONS that would then have to go back into the production of US manufacturing in order to stay competitive. But would this be something we would apply in the import of base resources like lithium or cotton textiles? Those details need to be worked out and numbers crunched. But the over all value of tariffs is in keeping a virtuous cycle of money flowing mostly within the US economy and that is what needs to be fought for. This is a sea change and I hope you grasp that. BTW--Jeremy Corbyn proposed this as well last week with his finance minister, MacDonald.
Solyndra did not fail because the business model was bad. It failed because of Chinese DUMPING. Now you are sounding like a Republican. Not good.
Wasting your energy on the cat fight over "who said what" and "did they really mean it?", when the issues that are so tragically overlooked sit their on the table and I name them for you, is what we should call "Myopic".
EDIT: OH! And if you want to control greenhouse gasses/Carbon Pollution as I do then you must be able to control the industry that produces that CO2. Thus, bringing industry back to the USA where it can be regulated is the first step forward.