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[–] Hook0076 ago 

Oh boy! Proprietary headphones that I can't even use with other Apple products! Who the fuck buys this shit?

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[–] DickHertz ago  (edited ago)

Stupid move and those airbuds are the most massively over-engineered pieces of shit. Should have put that money into sound quality which is all anyone cares about when buying earphones. Looking like a douchebag isn't on most consumers lists.

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[–] FatBastardIRL ago 

i think it makes deciding which phone to get a little bit easier.

much like phones with no SD slot and no removable battery, a lack of headphone jack will just be one more dealbreaker when i'm shopping.

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[–] dottel 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Bunch of cunts. And for the record Android sucks as well, they just suck slightly less.

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[–] Rakosman 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The digital to analogue conversion literally must happen somewhere. For a device that is become more and more inclusive with functionalities, it makes no sense to remove one. They have some valid arguments, regarding water tightness, and smoothness of design, but those would also be valid cases for removing the data port and moving to only wireless.

Having the speakers deal with their own conversion has some advantages - hardware makers will have more control over the sound - but it's really a non issue especially compared to the disbenefits.

By removing the analogue port they are taking away the universality of headphones, just like they do by not using USB. And, just like USB, it is an effort to keep tight control over what's used with their devices. In some ways, you could make the argument that it also allows them to ensure that the customer has a significantly reduced chance of having a bad experience (like using shitty headphones and blaming it on the phone) but they make shitty headphones, so that's also not really an issue.

Ultimately, removing the port removes functionality from a technology that is adding functionality everywhere else, it reduces consumer choice, and it increase the cost to the consumer. Stacked up like that, it seems reasonable to conclude that it's primarily about revenue.

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[–] PotatoFarm ago 

Good analysis, however, I wouldn't be so kind to even consider it, even for a moment, an attempt to make the transition from digital to analog. The truth is that the 3.5mm jack is (And I hope it'll continue to be) a modern wonder in a world of unnecessary and proprietary standards.

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[–] VillaLopez 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

He wasn't considering it, he was explaining in a nice way how stupid it was to remove this, since it has to be done anyways. See, if I understand this right (i am no expert), the DAC is also removed (since DAC is needed for the 3.5mm), and a DAC is included with the wireless thinger that you plug headphones into, or the wireless headphones have their own DAC. So it's stupid to remove something that is still needed to hear the music.

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[–] SimonJ57 ago 

If they didn't have it as one hole on the device AND offered a better alternative, then maby they would be given a pass.

Just like them removing the FDD and CD/DVD drive from their computers, trying to be edgy.
Anyone with a job or real need for the ports are shafted and wouldn't shouldn't be buying them in the first place.
And yet somehow they still have a demand.

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[–] VillaLopez 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

For almost ten years I have not had a cd/dvd player on my computer. It really is antiquated and redundant technology at this point.

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[–] Ghetto_Shitlord 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Their customers will adapt to what they are told to. We have had a few people get the stupidly thin MacBook, including 300 dollars of dongles to do their jobs.

Other got it to do compute heavy stuff at home, and because the throttlem sucks at raw power, they just stay late at work instead.

It's hilarious when their departments budgets run short, and they beg us to loan them budget for computers later. NO!

Mind you, we tell them to get one of the workstations with beefy i7's for compute, or the decent UB's for home work, but they never listen. Our director traded his XPS 13 for one, for a week. We held it because he is no idiot, and we knew he would want it back.

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[–] OriginalReaper 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

they probably have huge investment in bluetooth somewhere. don't they own beats by dre?

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[–] Ghetto_Shitlord ago 

Are they still selling? I used to see them everywhere on the bus, but now almost never.

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[–] gaiben 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

They do. That's why they're called "beats" now, no longer "beats by Dre".

As with everything Apple, mediocre products at an insane premium price.

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[–] OriginalReaper ago 

what is a waste of money?

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[–] oftotc ago 

Six to twelve months from now, Apple will offer the 3.5mm as part of the premium models, for an extra $450.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

A few months ago they released the SE, which is basically a 6S in a 5 shell, still includes the 3.5mm jack.

Personally I almost never use the 3.5mm jack on my phone so I don't care. But if I had to replace my 5S right now I'd pick up an SE just because I prefer the smaller size.

I'd rather have more battery than a 3.5mm jack.

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[–] VillaLopez 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

How often does more space equate into more battery life. My observations have been a steady decrease in battery life over the last decade no matter what is happening.

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