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[–] Totenglocke 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
It was about a year ago. Lots of people complained, but since most people are still going to buy Nvidia cards, they did it anyways.
[–] SkepticalMartian 3 points 1 point 4 points (+4|-3) ago (edited ago)
Can someone show me samples of the kinds of sensitive data it's transmitting? So far I haven't seen anything that suggests it's really that big a deal. What exactly is it stealing?
EDIT: I see there's a little blowback on the votes for this, is it really that unreasonable a question? If you're going to accuse a company of something nefarious, does it not make sense to understand exactly what they're doing wrong?
[–] SkillYourself [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Information collected by the SOFTWARE includes, but is not limited to, CUSTOMER SYSTEM'S (i) hardware configuration and ID, (ii) operating system and driver configuration, (iii) installed games and applications, (iv) games and applications settings, performance, and usage data, and (iv) usage metrics of the SOFTWARE.
So we don't really know what else they're collecting. When we know more I'll let you know. Right now, I'm calling it spyware.
[–] SkepticalMartian ago (edited ago)
Right, but if you look at anything that collects metrics it almost always uses the same or similar wording. I'm just not sure that the actual intent is there, and really you can't be sure until you've seen the data it's trying to transmit. I'd be willing to bet that your phone transmits more information about you than geforce experience does.
I'm not trying to tell you that you're wrong to be wary, especially in the current government surveillance climate. I just think that people tend to go off half-cocked without uncovering the whole story. Assuming there even is a story.
[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
From the looks of it, it's not too egregious. Looks like it's mostly the programs you use and general information about how you use them, e.g. statistics and whatnot, and how you use nVidia's software itself.
So it doesn't look too ominous. Mind you, I think that it will become more ominous soon enough; it seems like they're starting small and will start putting out their feelers to see just how far they can expand.
[–] PsychoDesign 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
I don't own a nVidia card, but I have to say that such thing annoys me. A mandatory account for drivers? fuck you. I mean c'mon I just need a soft that will enable my gfx card to work properly with OS. Driver is the software in case, so why create account? I myself could care less about rewards and prizes. I do definitely care about my privacy. So hell no to this.
If amd tries this with their Radeon Settings Software, I'll rant about it.
I hope nvidia users will get their shit together and fight this corp.
[–] 6326649? 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
To be exact, you don't need an account (yet) just for drivers. You can still d/l them yourself from the NVidia website.
The account and spying go along with GeForce experience, which supposedly automatically sets the optimum settings for your games and your system. Until I uninstalled GFE a few weeks back, I always bumped them up from the recommended settings anyway. I think they lowballed everything to make me want a higher powered card. I have a 970. I think my next card will be AMD, but I hate the shorty way they do card numbering.
[–] PsychoDesign 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Guess I exaggerated about drivers dl that need a mandatory account, but still as you mentioned (yet). It may not be now, but eventually they could introduce this. And I hate to say this may come sooner rather later, I hope amd will not come to this.
[–] SkillYourself [S] 1 point 5 points 6 points (+6|-1) ago
So what you're saying is we need to decentralise the net?
[–] auto_turret ago
I'm in favor of corporal punishment for those responsible, unless they correct the problem.
[–] SkillYourself [S] 2 points 5 points 7 points (+7|-2) ago
Yes but apparently that is changing soon too.
[–] FireForEffect 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
Oh.
That changes more than this, then. Once it becomes a dead set requirement to register to even so much as manually update a driver, I'll switch card manufacturers.
[–] DrBunsen 1 point 24 points 25 points (+25|-1) ago
Can the data collection be reverse engineered to feed false data?
[–] iamrage 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago (edited ago)
That would make for an awesome AdBlock type application. An application which would feed false data to any other application seeking it directly from your computer without your permission.
[–] DrBunsen ago
read my other comment https://voat.co/v/gaming/comments/1288467/6332283
[–] HyperSpatial 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I love this idea! :)
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[–] DrBunsen ago
well, I don't know how programs access this data. From the registry? Some shared DLL? You would only have to fool those places which it is accessed from, or the calls at least.
[–] Ghetto_Shitlord ago
Probably, but their system would learn those patterns and eventually be able to throw that data out with good enough accuracy.
[–] DrBunsen ago
patching patching patching ;)