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[–] A_Fringe_Element 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

If you're a libertarian you should also be a white-nationalist. Hispanics vote for socialism in every country they inhabit and blacks aren't capable of taking care of themselves at any meaningful rate. You're not going to change these people with a Murray Rothbard book.

We'll discuss the finer points of economic philosophies when we have our own country.

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[–] BloodFox ago 

Not all libertarians are white.

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[–] intrepiddemise 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Libertarianism is about personal liberty; it doesn't try to restrict much except for government. The kind of society you're intent upon making will have extremely high barriers to entry. Libertarianism isn't about regulations and barriers; it's about freedom. Freedom of choice, freedom of movement, etc. As long as you're not harming anyone else, you're to be left alone.

And if you think that whites are somehow immune from socialist tendencies, and that the Rapture you're going to build will therefore be free of it, think again. The Soviet Union was white (unless you don't count slavs as "white") and Communist for 75 years. Even the aryans of Sweden were socialists throughout the 1970s. Most European countries today have mixed economies that are highly focused upon social welfare. The communitarian/collectivist impulse is a human impulse. You're not going to get rid of it by walling out those you see as unfit. Once that becomes the norm, no-one, even those within your own ideal community, will be immune. This is how tribalistic infighting begins, and that kind of thing ruins even the most homogeneous of societies.

Even if I agreed with your white nationalist philosophy (I don't), I wouldn't support it because it wouldn't work on practical grounds, and for the same reason that you're arguing against a libertarian society: get a large enough group, and the chaos of human nature enters the picture and ruins all of your well-laid plans. The only thing we can do as citizens is to argue for our beliefs and attempt to gain some control over the levers of power so that we can see legislation that we favor implemented or so we can see rules and structures with which we disagree dismantled.

And if you're thinking of an armed white nationalist revolution, the same thing would happen to it that would happen to any armed anarchist or libertarian revolution: it would be crushed. Both of these philosophies are considered extremist philosophies by most of the American public. You white nationalists need to realize that and come to terms with it, as most libertarians have.

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[–] A_Fringe_Element ago 

Libertarianism is about personal liberty; it doesn't try to restrict much except for government.

I'm aware - I personally think it's a shallow ideology that stands for little at the end of the day but "muh freedoms". We've consistently seen that a society where anything goes and "don't judge" is the motto will destroy itself. Economic pitfalls can be corrected social pitfalls are rarely as easy.

Freedom of choice, freedom of movement, etc. As long as you're not harming anyone else, you're to be left alone.

"Muh freedoms" and "muh constitution" are not going to save you from a 51% majority. The mythical immigrant looking for a better life is coming here because of our GDP and lack of wars/diseases. He brought his ideas with him when he crossed an imaginary line and was given a magical piece of paper by a government bureaucrat.

I wouldn't support it because it wouldn't work on practical grounds

Actually it worked quite well for generations. Until very recently in history allowing millions of Africans and Arabs into your country wasn't even imaginable. To this day there's many countries with almost completely homogeneous populations. Most people are fickle - most of the people alive today status signalling for gay rights were making jokes about faggots ten to fifteen-years-ago. That pendulum can swing the other direction as well. Groups like BLM and Muslims do more for white nationalism than anyone else because at its core white nationalism is merely a survival strategy.

And if you're thinking of an armed white nationalist revolution

In the US that's unnecessary - this country has the sociological version of AIDS and will go the way of the USSR. We'll see what emerges from those ashes but there's enough land to divide. It's Europe that needs ethnic cleansing and that's much more likely to happen.

PS - my "ideology" is no more radical than Zionism.

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[–] LoftyGoat 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

The Libertarian message needs to fail. It's pure ideology, without so much as a scintilla of practical experience as leavening. Like Communism, Libertarianism is based on how people should behave, rather than how they do behave. Never works.

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[–] Somali 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Communists think people can work together in a commune and their honest caring government will be left alone by bad actors because well wouldn't it be nice if Mao didn't just declare you an enemy of the state and culturally enrich you.

Libertarians think people can work together in a territory and they will be left alone by bad actors because well wouldn't it be nice if Soros didn't import a million rapefugees to culturally enrich you.

Libertarian useful idiots should be put in the same gas chambers as Marxist uis. Run them round the clock.

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[–] murgerbeister ago 

Lol "straight up republican"...

http://www.advocate.com/politics/politicians/2015/05/29/16-antigay-leaders-exposed-gay-or-bi

What does republican even mean, they can't produce their own candidate for president, had to import a "TV boss character" to play presidential candidate (badly).

Mrs clinton is a disaster too. But seeing you old guys trying to comfort yourselves with worthless tribalism is sickening.

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