[–] flyawayhigh ago
make the claim that it's only the republicans that are angry at Hillary for breaking these laws
Not at all what I intended. Rather, some Republicans will hammer these things into our brains at the exclusion of other information for partisan purposes in total hypocrisy so that they can get Republican candidates in who will repeal what's left of the campaign laws. These are the types of Republicans that proliferate Voat.
Most people approve of these laws and want much stricter rules on campaign funding and electioneering -- including Republicans strangely enough.
Do you really think Republican sites like Free Beacon, Breitbart, and RealClearPolitics actually care that Hillary might be "coordinating"? I'm sure that it is only for the purpose of discrediting her illegitimately -- with perhaps a touch of jealousy!
While the post in question is the excellent work of a Goat -- when the partisan Republican spin machine puts out stories like this, they know exactly what they are doing -- that's called LYING too.
I know how Voat handles these things from history. Try posting a Koch brothers story and watch the downvotes and the comments. One comment is always "SOROS!" And of course, it's upvoated. Then, try posting a Soros story and see how it rockets to the top with no criticism or analysis whatsoever...
Unless the "analysis" points to a Republican partisan site that distorts the reality and fakes that Soros spends more that Kochs. I can assure you that -- no, Soros does not spend more.
So then, I can go on to explain that Koch brothers spend far more money and started decades earlier -- and it all falls on deaf ears.
Can you imagine ... Hillary Clinton gets indicted for electioneering crimes and the next person repeals all those laws? What a crazy world of propaganda we live in. :D
[–] OhBlindOne [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Well with Obama's administration repealing the Smith Mundt Act, it's no surprise that the propaganda has sped up in the U.S.
To be fair, though, Hillary Clinton is a criminal. She has committed multiple felonies and has definitely had her hand in election fraud. Yes, both sides are guilty of doing such things in the past, but currently, Hillary is taking the cake. The Clinton's are evil, and that's not a matter of opinion. I don't like when people assert that it's only the democrats that are doing illegal stuff, because both sides do it, it's just the democrats that are doing it more this time around (it's been the republicans more for some elections).
I just hate all the lies and propaganda from both sides. I wish people would stop just blindly supporting whichever side suits them.
The whole reason I created this subverse was to point out all the lies, regardless of which side the come from. Sadly, I don't have enough time to read through every article I come across and correct it.
[–] flyawayhigh ago (edited ago)
We need to be a little smarter. If we take advantage of convenient situations that cut against our interests -- and especially if we do so for partisan purposes -- we are hurting ourselves.
Here's my idea: let's avoid things that meet the following two conditions:
Do not go after Hillary for things that shouldn't be criminal
Do not go after Hillary for laws that Republicans oppose.
Is there anything left? Yes, plenty.
You mentioned one:
go after that, although it leaves a bitter taste.
The 2000 election was stolen. The partisans then were saying "Sore Loserman" and crazy things like "How do we know how many votes there are if the votes were not counted?" Remember that one? They used paid Republican staff members blocking the vote count and banging on the doors. The Supreme Court stepped in with arguably its worst decision ever -- maybe Dred Scott was worse.
But the partisans only cared about one thing -- getting Bush in. And look what happened [Place really long essay here.]
Interestingly, Democrats did not care very much about the increased election stealing in the next few elections. After they won in 2006, they shut up totally -- even though Republicans stole four percent of that election too.
On one hand it's cool that she is sticking it to them with their own tactics -- on the other, those tactics need to end.
The irony here is that Hillary is mostly Republican on the economy, and not a very big supporter of traditional Democratic social platforms.
Despite that harsh truth, I still think it's a good idea to go after Hillary on the election issue because we can actually win something in the end -- better elections. Let's think carefully for the people. :)