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[–] Cynabuns 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

PS. [SUGGESTION] - like in the other thread, recommend that you an an edit to note that RULE3 has already been deleted :)

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Great suggestion, and taken care of!

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] ago 

Pinging @Atko and @PuttItOut to keep you guys in the loop. Sorry for the kerfuffle; I know you guys have been pinged a lot in the past 24 hours.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

  1. you rock. epic modding.

  2. thank you.

  3. no fuck blocking. it's single-serve reverse user-user shadowbanning and that's a form of censorship, thus it's only PARTIALLY freeze peach, not freeze peach, which means no freeze peach which means there would be no reason to stay on voat. freeze peach or nuthin'.

edit: on rule 3: whatever the community consensus is is what it ought be. it's a default sub. a community thing, just like you said :)

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for the great feedback, it really means a lot to me :)

I added this edit to the /v/IdeasForVoat request:

Words don't hurt anyone, but a single user following another user around the site can generate a lot of crap in their inbox. It would basically be a spam filter for you inbox, even if it's something as basic as: don't make a red envelope notification when this user replies to me, and all of their comments in my inbox are collapsed by default.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

somehow you've got me nodding my head in agreement here and i've got nothing - - that's a fair way to allow the edge of it to be diminished without creating a single-serve shadowban experience for users. i really appreciate that delicate balance struck there.

sadly tho, i don't see a code like that coming out for a while. and we're not even talking voatgoat's awful money troubles in the way of good shit like this being implemented, just on a technical level, giving users options like that seems...

and all those preferences have to be stored, more space, more ah yes.. moolah.

voat'sgreatagain! wooT!eeeeyeeeaaah chilz the hellz!

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[–] CrazyInAnInsaneWorld 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

I personally think while we can get rid of the doxing and brigading sections (Only the admins can really prove that inconclusively, anyways), the harrassment section should stay. Obviously, my opinion seems to be in the minority, but if it is obvious a particular user is following around another particular user for the sole purpose of griefing that particular user, that the mods should be able to step in and do something about it. In that vein, I think the harrassment rule should stay...with the caveat that the mod team and community formulate a specific definition of "harrassment".

That's just my $0.02

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

All great points. I agree with the doxxing and brigading points completely. What do you think of a site-wide block user button instead of handling it on a subverse basis? Then users each have the tools to block a heckler without affecting anyone else on the sub.

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[–] CrazyInAnInsaneWorld 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I think it's a great idea for Voat, actually. I will readily concede that it comes with the risk of users echo-chambering themselves, but I think we can generally trust Voat's users to seek out enough dissenting opinion on their own to prevent that becoming a sizable problem. At any rate, users are still free to speak whatever they wish, but as always with Free Speech, it is incumbent upon the speaker to be persuasive enough to get others to listen to what they have to say...the same concept applies with this ignore button/command idea, so I see no conflict with Voat's historical support of Free Speech.

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[–] CheekyMonkey 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I had noticed the comments in the last couple of weeks and was ok with the ban at first. I got involved in the discussion thread and had my mind changed.

That whole thread was great and full of people with totally different opinions talking through the issue, not being dicks about it and generally acting like adults.

Then we get this, a mod modding the way it should be done.

Its so refreshing and great to see happening.

I love Voat.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm happy to be part of your positive experience, friend :)

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[–] CheekyMonkey 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Oops I forgot about the rule 3 thinger, I'm for removing it.

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[–] Cynabuns 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I'm curious if you ever came to a decision of your own after reading and being involved all the comments.

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[–] CheekyMonkey 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I think so :)

Originally my being ok with the ban was me reacting and not thinking, reacting to seeing the guy I'd noticed doing something I don't like "getting his comeuppance". It really only took someone to make me think to let me realize this. I've said before, one of the things I didn't like about Voat (seeing the front page filled up with stuff I really didn't like or agree with) is actually just a demonstration of the thing I like most about Voat, freedom of speech done properly. I've found in the past that its quite easy to get carried away with something I don't actually agree with just because "my feels" and when I just take a second to think I see it for what it is. So I generally try to keep that in mind, I guess today I just let it slip a little.

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[–] 84626433832795028841 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Gaming has mods? Why?

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

mainly to avoid turning into the mountain of garbage that /r/gaming devolved to. good mods give the community the freedom to create rules for themselves, just like it says in the site-wide terms of service:

Subverses may create their own rules and enforce them as they see fit, providing they do not violate the terms of this agreement. You agree that voat is not responsible for the actions taken or not taken by moderators.

/v/gaming's rules are community-driven and put up for regular review even if no changes are requested. We push for clear and predictable wording and enforce those rules as fairly as possible.

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[–] 5987875? 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Thanks for linking me here. I think it's really good you reversed the ban and I hope the user appreciates it as well and stops being a pain in the ass. Its easy to be a dick but you don't have to be. You already know I opposed the rule 3 being there so thats all I have to say.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

AlphaWookie isn't so bad, all-in-all: https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/comments/1211404/5987617

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[–] Namrok 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I'm enormously put off by having public discussion about individual proposed bans. I don't know if you've ever seen a wikipedia arbcom drama, but it's probably the most neurotic, cringy, spergy drama you can imagine.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] ago 

That is an excellent point :P

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 1 point 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

I think that's a good perspective to have. I don't expect the community to have to vote on every rule violation (that's what moderators are for) but if the community decides that harassment isn't a big deal, we can strike that rule asap and play it by ear. /v/gaming's rules evolve with the community and are regularly put up for review. I appreciate you and everyone who chooses to weigh in as a part of the community's decisions.

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