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[–] Code-x 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

Awesome. Baby sitter mods are the worst.

I take back my hateful remarks.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I appreciate it :) they may have been short and colorful, but at the same time I understood where they were coming from and wanted to personally reach out and say so.

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[–] 5987580? 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

Throw out rule 3 and let people downvote it if they want. After -4 it's collapsed anyway.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I appreciate the feedback! Part of rule 3 was mainly not wanting people to have an inbox flooded with comments if they pick up a stalker - that's why "sustained" is in the criteria, so collapsing the comment or downvoating it doesn't resolve that issue. But it's also a situation that happens fairly infrequently since I've been here.

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[–] Cynabuns 3 points 9 points (+12|-3) ago 

AGREE, Rule 3 should be removed.

And thank you for the ban removals and the open discussion :)

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[–] Cynabuns 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Haha! You Dick!1!! Too funny, Reacher :D, lmao

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

You're a top notch voater, Cynabuns; I appreciate your level-headedness.

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[–] Cynabuns 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Very kind of you, Chilly, likewise. Like I told @reacher elsewhere - this whole discussion could have become an @eggnogg or @she shitshow in a hurry but you two have been open and willing to listen to the community. Sincerely, thank you both for helping to make Voat fucking awesome.

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[–] FireForEffect 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Good job reversing. I say keep the rule but get some community feedback first? Only thing I can think of right now. Spam will happen more and more as Voat grows so there needs to be guidelines. I like this sub. Not very active but I voat a lot.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I appreciate the feedback. Rule 3 (and all of /v/gaming's rules) belong to the community and are only created/modified with community feedback. In fact, the sticky that this sticky replaced was a feedback thread specifically for rule 3, which had been around for a year already.

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[–] 5987512? 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

I think it's a good idea to stay away from deciding on what harassment is. Maybe instead of arguing we can all get together when the admins come back and ask them if they have time to implement some sort of block function that doesn't rely on a browser addon.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think that's an excellent suggestion!

Edit: You've inspired me: https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/comments/1211887

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[–] Kadynce 8 points 0 points (+8|-8) ago 

We wouldnt even need the rule if the block feature was implemented. We've been asking for it for a year at least T_T

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[–] Cynabuns 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Consider suggesting that users add v/AVE to their browsers; the ignore feature works really nicely.

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[–] 5987464? 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

Yea, I don't think rule 3 is needed and just causes trouble. No need to reply to my comment in the other thread, I'm sure you have a lot.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I do, but I'm adament about going through each comment and replying personally. It's taking a long time, and I apologize if I miss a few.

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[–] AlphaWookie 6 points 1 point (+7|-6) ago 

OP it depend. If you want to referee personal disagreement with users and think you can do so in a way that result in both users staying and both sides agreeing to apologize and sticking with there apology then rule 3 should stay. If you do not want the work let it go and the community do its thing.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I appreciate the constructive feedback. What would you think of a site-wide block button taking the place of any subverse rules against harassment? https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/comments/1211887

With respect, no one likes a heckler, but because harassment is so subjective, it makes more sense to place tools in the hands of each individual than to try to prevent it at the sub level.

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[–] Cynabuns 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Not sure if you saw or knew, but v/AVE has a block/ignore user feature to it - at least until we can get it from the Admins (and it's been requested at least a dozen times now :() - thanks for requesting/suggesting it again!

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[–] 5987535? 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Its better if we make a bitchfight sub and let everyone duke it out in there.

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[–] thrus 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It is an interesting idea but I don't see it working well. using myself as an example, if someone wants to argue with me I'm happy to do so (some days more then others) but if they are so into an internet argument that they create a specific post to continue it or insult me or even go on a downvoating campaign against me I'm just going to laugh to myself and go on with my day.

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[–] AlphaWookie 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

That is an old idea it is called the free market place of ideas.

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[–] Kadynce 10 points -3 points (+7|-10) ago 

As long as personal disagreements can stay personal, I dont see a problem with it. There are private messages for a reason. When it fills up our subverse with unnecessary name calling in the comments, then it affects the discussion.

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[–] 5987431? 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

No one but the admins can prove brigading anyway so that's a bit of a useless rule to have for a mod to enforce. Doxxing is something for the admins to handle also if they wish and I think harassment is too subjective for a few people to interpret.

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[–] ChillyHellion [S] 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

You've channeled my thoughts on brigading to a T. And you're right that doxxing is already in the TOS. The TOS does expressly require mods to enforce the site-wide rules (including doxxing), but that's no reason for us to double-cover a site-wide rule in the sidebar.

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