[–] Disappointed 3 points 11 points 14 points (+14|-3) ago
Did you give this user a warning? How long will the ban last?
[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Please see updated: https://voat.co/v/gaming/comments/1211755
[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Until it's appealed or the rule is repealed, either way. I've not been contacted by this user.
Rule 3 is clearly posted and defined, and there's a strict definition of what constitutes harassment: targeted AND sustained. We constantly put /v/gaming's rules up for community review, and the current sticky is in fact a discussion on what should be done about the harassment rule (the sticky went up before all of this attention fell on me).
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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
hey friend. /v/gaming's modteam will always do what it can to faithfully enforce the community's rules. Those rules are periodically put up for discussion, and no changes are made without the community's direct involvement. That said, rules are only a proxy of the community's will, and the overwhelming feedback of the past few hours has convinced me to reverse all of my bans (3) that include "harassment" as the sole cause. I would like to to one step farther and repeal rule 3 entirely, but I can't do that without the community's approval. I've proposed this action here: https://voat.co/v/gaming/comments/1211755
As always, I appreciate your feedback Laurentius, and hope my actions haven't discouraged you from participating in /v/gaming.
[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
The action or the rule? My place is to serve the community and respect the rules that /v/gaming has implemented for itself. Rule 3 has been up for revision a few times, and has always had universal support (it's actually up for review right this second, prior to any of this comment's attention). The rule itself is clearly written, and its enforcement was followed to the letter, detailed with several clear examples.
[–] Code-x 4 points -1 points 3 points (+3|-4) ago
Shut up retard.
Banning someone for saying shut up. Few times to the same person? Where the fuck do you think you are you shit eating cunt bitch.
You have to be a huge fucking bitch to think what he did constitutes as harassment and causing distress. Get the fuck out of here.
Thanks for providing the instances of his crimes to display how much of a dumbass you are
[–] ChillyHellion ago
/v/gaming's rules belong to the community. They're frequently up for revision, and are maintained with community feedback. This user's actions follow the community's definition of harassment (being sustained and unrelated to /v/gaming). Taking action, I only cited comments he made in /v/gaming, and followed the definition the community has put forward. There's actually been a sticky up for revision of this rule since yesterday to ask what changes if any should be made.
[–] SaneGoatiSwear 6 points 12 points 18 points (+18|-6) ago
i'm disappointed.
while i disagree with your rule, and while i disagree that mods on a default sub have any right to ban for something like this. (this is voat, not fucking reddit), and while i believe that this action has thrown us down the slippery slope to censorship,
i gotta say
if i'm reading your extended rules correctly,
"If a user is receiving messages or replies which are causing them genuine distress, we will deal with that." (1)
that means the user(s) being targeted would have to complain.
from what i see here:
https://voat.co/v/gaming/comments/1204471/5955518
it doesn't sound like dabork is distressed over alphawookie being a troll, i think he's clearly stating here he couldn't give a shit.
so while alphawookie is totally being a troll, as far as the rules are concerned in this sub as they are, if dabork doesn't care, then it's not harassment.
THAT SAID
this rule is unacceptable, and as YOU say (1), this is a community driven rule model, so as a gamer and a voat v/gaming community member, i say fuck this reddit-style rule in the ass, and get it the fuck out of here.
hurt fee fee safe spaces are for reddit, not voat
you have just made v/gaming into r/gaming. undo the damage by undoing the ban, removing the rule and replacing it with a statement to the effect: voat is not a safe space. if your fee fees are hurt there are plenty of mainstream sites to frequent.
(1) https://voat.co/v/gaming/comments/388319 v/gaming extended rules cited above
[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
You raise some good points, and I encourage you to speak up in the /v/gaming sticky for review of rule 3: https://voat.co/v/gaming/comments/1209908 /v/gaming's rules are not my creation; they belong to the community and have always been written and maintained with direct feedback from the /v/gaming community.
[–] SaneGoatiSwear 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
ok i'm well aware of the rule and them being community driven, i read the thing, ya know... i even cited it in my comment.
so let's break it down, chel:
the community rule sucks and has no place on a default sub on voat. it would fit in perfectly with reddit. that is MY OPINION. and i'll be sure to stick my two cents in that thread. thank you for the link.
really the important one here, and what is not up to interpretation is that: THE BAN YOU HAVE HAMMERED IS NOT BY THE STANDING COMMUNITY RULE. in short: you have gone over the bounds of the rules with this ban,
UNLESS you have something from dabork stating "i'm under genuine distress"
i am directly contending your ban right here on your ban, not on behalf of that jackbooted repetitive troll, but on behalf of the standard of free speech here on voat. you have banned a user for "harassment causing a user 'genuine distress'" although clearly he's being uber classy, for example https://voat.co/v/gaming/comments/1204471/5955518 being chill and here
https://voat.co/v/interestingasfuck/comments/1197712/5920435
he actually gives the guy a code to refresh his page easier, lol.
doesn't sound like "genuine distress" to me.
sounds like overstepping the community rules. so unless you have something showing "genuine distress" take back the ban, replace the status quo of freeze peach on default subs to where it was: actual freeze peach, not partial freeze peach slide to deaddit, or the indicator species will die and everyone will leave voat. lol. seriously.