[–] HyperCuriousMe [S] 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago
Yeah, you are exactly right. He is stepping down as he was for 'remain' and couldn't stay in power as 'leave' won. The UK is in limbo now as we wait to find out who our next leader of the Conservative Party will be (his party) and hence Prime Minister. The UK is not triggering "Article 50" which is the official notice needed to start leaving officially. The UK government doesn't want to start the ball rolling until everything is in place as there is a two year window to get everything sorted out. The EU is panicking because the uncertainty is crashing their markets much more than the UK, which in turn could destabilise the Eurozone. The pause in doing this could genuinely be because of potential political fall out, or, alternately, to raise uncertainty and do proportionally more damage to the EU before we start negotiations.
Cameron is currently acting as PM but will step aside as soon as everything is in place. What is interesting is he, so far, appears to actually be representing Leave's interests quite fairly, although these are just preliminary discussions.
We will see, it's complex and this is an over simplification, but I hope it gives you an approximate overview.
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[–] EUSSR-drone 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
One-winged flying always ends so well...
crash
[–] HyperCuriousMe [S] 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago (edited ago)
European Commission President Jean Claude Juncker likened the EU to an injured bird. "The British vote has cut off one of our wings, but we are still flying," he said.
LOL. I'm not aware of any birds that can fly with one wing. Crippled and flapping around on the floor yes, flying, no. Otherwise you're entirely right Mr Juncker.
[–] InfidelAl 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Another American here... I never understood the "remain" argument. I mean, I know there was a lot of disagreement over individual issues (immigration, trade and such) but it seems to me to be a simple matter of sovereignty. Regardless of whether someone thinks GB should have open borders immigration or a Trump style wall, shouldn't it be British citizens that make that decision? It's hard to fathom that nearly half of a country could agree to give away their rights to self determination to an unaccountable foreign political body. I imagine there's got to be a better "remain" argument, but this just sounds like madness.
[–] HyperCuriousMe [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
It's complex but basically it came down to politics vs economics. Obviously you understand the leave position, but the remain position was that we should stay so the UK wouldn't damage it's economy and house prices. It went a bit further than that, suggesting that the EU was part of a beautiful ideal world of living together in peace and harmony, so the propaganda line was sold hard to the masses. Anyone who disagreed with the EU was a racist bigot who should have died a long time ago (old people) and the young wanted to embrace their global slavery because that represented, to them, the triumph of Love over Hate. The level of brainwashing in incredible, but thankfully it failed.
It's surreal. We are on the very edge of an Orwellian disaster, however, and all credit to them, the British public voted out. It was a close run thing, but it looks like the end of the EU is now in sight. This vote has brought attention to the failings of the EU. It has legitimised the problems of the EU across the continent. Until this vote, any criticism of open-borders was met with accusations that one was a far right extremist. All this has now come unstuck.
[–] EUSSR-drone 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Just wait until you get to vote on a North American Union, for the San Fransisco-crowd "madness" is all the argument they need.
And at the end of the rainbow a thousand Merchants are wringing their hands as they watch the sheeple give up their only protection against enslavement: a national sovereign government.