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[–] Doog [S] 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Seriously, Microsoft can suck my balls when windows 7 is obsolete. I'm turning to Ubuntu or something similar.

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[–] j_ 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Why wait? I mean if you’re genuinely dissatisfied with Microsoft or Windows or both (which you sound like you are), then take action instead of wagging your finger at them.

FWIW I would not recommend Ubuntu either. They have been straying from truly open-source software, and caused some controversy of their own with search reporting and Amazon ads. LMDE, openSUSE, and Arch Linux are better alternatives.

edit: moved LMDE to the front as it is generally considered easier to use; openSUSE is a good choice for tech-savvy users, while Arch is only recommended for experienced Linux users. LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) is distinct from plain Linux Mint, which is based on Ubuntu.

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[–] Massmoment 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Arch is far from the Ubuntu mindset of ease of use.

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[–] Shafticle 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Rant time!

I stopped using Windows personally (and professionally where ever possible) in 2012.

Two things put me over the edge:

  1. The Windows drivers for my 2x Crossfired Radeon 7850's in Win8 blue-screened relentlessly and for no good reason after the update to Win8! I could forgive them if the cards were overheating or a buggy game or something, but none of this was occurring. Sitting there idle and looking at the thing the wrong way would cause Win8 to explosively shit the bed. The "buggy" and universally loathed proprietary Linux Radeon drivers? No issues. None. You have to setup CrossFire-X from the command line, but it works and I've not had a video related issue in 3 years using the same bloody cards.

    They're keeping my feet warm as I type. AND even IF X.org shits the bed, it does usually does not take the entire system down with it! The newer windows DWM.exe is suppose to be like this too, but nope not in my scenario, it's been a relentless bed shitter since win8. Use nVidia? nVidia drove me over the edge with a beyond faulty Geforce 8600 (GT I think it was?) chip in the late 2000's- but that's another rant all together.

  2. I was always FIGHTING the operating system. This needed updates, that needed updates, this or that was ALWAYS nagging. I use a computer to work, not work for the computer! As my GF puts it "Linux just SHUTS UP!" When I realized I spent more time fighting Windows functionality (windows updates, third party programs, etc) then actually expanding peoples organizations and getting my work done I decided it was time to quit cold turkey. Yeah I miss a game or two but WINE is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was a decade ago and with Steam Linux support for some titles, it's not like I don't get to play any more. Apt-get (in my humble opinion), and it's similar Linux counter parts (YUM, pacman, etc) are greater than all windows packaging and update technologies introduced in all our life times. One command to rule all the updates of the entire system. Want to know what Apt-get has NEVER done for me? Pushed down a silent update without my consent. Can't say the same for windows update. Apt-get stays put until it's called upon to perform its magic, period. The new Windows 10 store, ninite, and these emerging powershell apt-get-like windows clones? Well I guess it's better to be nearly 2 decades late to the show then to not show up at all. Apt-get is still superior (imo) than each of 'em.

If you're thinking of jumping on the Linux band wagon pick any distro that floats your boat. I believe there is no wrong or right distro, you choose the one that jives with you. Obviously if you're just starting out, Distros like Linux Mint are going to be easier to figure out than jumping directly into Gentoo or Slackware. I started out with Mandriva (lol) in like 2006ish if I recall, which is like the retarded step child of linux distros. It left such a bad taste, but I pressed on until I found the family of Distros that suited me- Debian and its children (Ubuntu, Mint, etc).

(puts soap box away) Sorry for the wall of text folks.

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[–] Doog [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I'm using both as it is. However changing from one system to another is not just something you do during a coffee break. Changing a work environment is a major undertaking, it takes man hours and it costs money.

So, what I am saying is that when windows is obsolete then there is going to be major changes. ..And some of it have already been done.

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[–] Quine 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Correct, however Ubuntu is still not that bad relatively. If you like Ubuntu, go ahead!

Typed from my Ubuntu PC.

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[–] RamenJunkie 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah, I'm reeeeeaaaallly apprehensive about Windows 10. Despite all the reports suggesting otherwise, I still feel like Microsoft is really in love with the subscription idea and after a year Windows 10 will turn into "Windows 10 Basic" or some shit and you will have to subscribe for all the features. Most worrying and likely will be the non subscribed version will only allow software from the Store to be installed.

This is all just paranoid speculation though.

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[–] squiremarcus 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

ya i have a fucking button on my computer telling me to update to windows 10

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[–] pilgrimboy14 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You know what I hate. I went through the process, and the stupid button is still there. I'm excited about updating to Windows 10, but I don't want that button there for two months.

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[–] lllllllllll 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You can either hide the icon or remove it permanently.

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[–] I_Was_Titanium_Man ago 

Uninstall KB 3035583

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[–] Joliet_Jake_Blues 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Whoa, I literally just noticed an icon in the lower right corner asking me if I want to update to Windows 10.

What's the deal? I'm not super tech savvy. I know I like Windows 7 and want to wait for early adopters to either confirm it is worth the upgrade, or tell me if it sucks as bad as 8.

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[–] slampisko 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I honestly don't get the hate of W8.1. From a technical standpoint it's a solid system. It's faster than 7 on the same hardware, uses my SSD more efficiently.. The only annoyances seem to be with the interface, and 99 % of those are redeemable with tweaking system options or free 3rd party software. I boot to desktop automatically and use a piece of software that transforms my Start menu to the classic interface and I don't have to see Not-Metro for weeks at a time.

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[–] Icy-Defiance 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

MS made one bad design decision with a fullscreen start menu. It's not even bad enough to qualify as an annoyance. It's just not quite as nice as the old one. But swarms of people who despise change in any form are using it as an excuse to hate Win8.

They're probably the same people who refused to upgrade from XP because they thought Aero was ugly or something. Those people were/are funny too.

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[–] beavis ago  (edited ago)

This happens on Mac too. There's a persistent popup at the corner of the screen asking to upgrade to Yosemite. The only difference is that you don't pay anything for the Apple upgrade, and the upgrade itself has usually been painless, not something I can say about our previous Windows upgrades.

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[–] Sticky ago 

so when the free upgrades stop? i think i might eventually upgrade to w10 but w7 is too good to risk loosing right now.

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[–] pilgrimboy14 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They are supposed to stop one year after release.

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[–] Sticky ago 

thanks.

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[–] Quine 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Microsoft is doing a good job at getting me to switch to another OS that won't serve adware!

The acceptance of a new EULA makes it 'non-free' by definition, as there are additional restrictions levied upon it.

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[–] immibis 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Most peoples' definition of "free" means "you won't pay money for it". So yes, it is free.

(If you want to talk about free-as-in-speech, I suggest the word libre)

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[–] Agrajag ago 

Will anything happen to all the programs and folders I have if I decide to upgrade?

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[–] j_ 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

As with any upgrade things can go wrong. Nobody can guarantee all your existing programs will work without problems. To be safe I would either:

  1. (if you really want to upgrade) Do a full system backup before upgrading

  2. (preferred option) Dual boot and install Windows 10 in a fresh partition, then only install the programs you need when you need them. Good way to clean out the cruft from your previous system too. When everything is alright for a couple of months then remove the old partition.

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[–] Danbear ago 

So I'm stuck with Vista and can't afford to upgrade. Is there any convoluted deal that will let me upgrade to 10 for free in any way? (Legit I mean, I don't want to pirate an OS)

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[–] OrionBlastar 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Even if you got a free Windows 10 upgrade, it would have to do a fresh install and move your Vista stuff to windows.old and start over fresh with no apps and no settings left over from Vista.

Vista SP2 still has security updates until April 2017. No new features and no new service packs. You can't get the latest Internet Explorer or DirectX drivers either. You need Windows 8.1 and above for that now.

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[–] Danbear ago 

Yeah the DirectX bit is going to kill me.

I just need a whole new rig. :(

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[–] j_ 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I don’t know about free. You can get legit Windows 7 or 8 keys for $20 on software swap sites.

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[–] forthe48 ago 

Yeah, looks like j_ is right. I did some quick googling, and according to neowin and a few other places there's no clear upgrade path for XP/Vista to 10.

"In either case, upgrading to Windows 10 will be free, as long as you make the jump in the first year after launch. Windows Vista and Windows XP users with compatible hardware can buy an upgrade to Windows 10, but this will require a clean install that erases all programs and files" - http://www.pcworld.com/article/2898794/heres-how-windows-10-upgrade-paths-will-work.html

Looks like they'll charge some kind of an upgrade fee to move up from Vista. G2A has windows 8.1 professional keys for $37 right now, which isn't too bad, and there are other places that sell/swap software as well.

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