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[–] Tat_Tvam_Asi 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

In my case? I'm sure. I'm not the smartest person in the world. However, that changes nothing. If I can not out smart the child or situation, I have not out smarted it. There is no getting away from the fact that the child gets spanked due to my inability to outsmart the situation. This is a hard pill for most parents but love will push their pride aside if it is there.

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[–] sonic_sabbath 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"outsmart the child" - basically, don't discipline your child?

Do something bad, get disciplined. Pretty damned straight forward.
Don't do anything bad, don't get disciplined.

I have a daughter and all the "modern-type" parents are surprised at how well behaved, well mannered and intelligent my daughter is. Why? She is taught right from wrong. Does something wrong? Gets a clip 'round the ear along with an explanation as to what she did wrong and why it is wrong.
Explanations are NOT the punishment. They go WITH the punishment.

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[–] Tat_Tvam_Asi ago 

Decent parent have decent children. Decent children don't do bad things. They make mistakes but don't cross lines they can see. Trashy people have trashy kids that do trashy things we call bad. One type of family does less thinking and more reacting. The other does more thinking, responding and never reacts.