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[–] Mylon ago 

If the environment that typically spawns communism is capitalism that has fucked up so hard that people decide they've had enough and start a revolution (which, like most revolutions ends up being redirected) into a shitty form of communism, is that communism earning a bad name or is that capitalism earning a bad name?

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum and you can't blame the effect without looking at the cause.

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[–] Broc_Lia [S] ago 

I'd say that's communism earning a bad name. Also, I can't think of many examples of marxist-leninist-socialism following fucked up capitalism, it's usually some other kind of statism.

Ok, if you need absolutely perfect starting conditions for communism to be born out of socialism, then it's still useless: The real world will never have absolutely perfect starting conditions.